[Joey Woods]

Originally Posted by Racerrob OK Joey!! When we first started back into sprint cars (1987) we ran exclusively with a wing and set quick time and NTRs at the WoO shows at Bloomington two consecutive years. Also won USAC winged race at Moberly, MO with Rich Vogler in 1989. I think I might remember something about winged racing but I don't know if the most of the USAC guys could be competitive in the motor department. I also remember when USAC ran both wing and non wing in the same season it was usually a cherry pick for the WoO guys if they had the night off. Rob Hoffman

Thanks Rob, glad I didnt offend you I forgot the little smiley face thing to show I was teasing. I was still pretty young at that time, probably did see it but don't remember it. I will say the first time I went to Salem your car is the only one I remember, I dont even remember who won.

[Crankin]

Originally Posted by DonMoore10 Regarding the Sacra-tomato race, I think the promoter died and that was the end of SC racing at that track. Don Moore

This was the guy that promoted the last 2 races at Sacramento and he seems to be alive and well: http://www.johnpadjenmotorsports.com/

[DonRacer]

Originally Posted by psullivan The 1996 DelMar race was one of the most memorable in S.C. History - I was there and it was quite a weekend. There was concours de elegance that featured an incredible array of restored cars - R Ward and Troy Ruttman were the grand marshalls, there was an art and photo auction - T.Q's in a rodeo ground like area (wasn't good - but different. Scott Delosio announced and was a riot - as was Bruce Flanders for the big show)) and then the race itself featured the blown tire on the white flag by Kenny Irwin when he had the title in his hand - crashed into young Ryan Newman, and Jimmy Sills, to the shock of all, won his third title. (Jay Drake won the midget race which made him a winner on the mile in two straight races - he also won at Sacramento) The venue was stunning - but the race was awful. Robbie Flock finished on the podium and the whole front of his car was like it had been sand blasted - and then to start they used this concrete area for a launching pad and I think it cost a ton of money to clean. It was incredible, however, running the S.C. cars at the place that had not seen big open wheel cars since Rex Mays took his last lap.

Del Mar, great spectacle, bad race.

Anyone have any idea if the new synthetic Polytrack surface at Del Mar would work for race cars?

[Joey Woods]

[QUOTE=DonRacer;19806]Del Mar, great spectacle, bad race.

Anyone have any idea if the new synthetic Polytrack surface at Del Mar would work for race cars?

[Honest-Sam]

Originally Posted by D.O. Didn't ask about Ron, I think he has done a good job and hopefully still around.

I agree wholeheartedly. You did a better job of expressing my concern than I did. :emote20:

[usac14]

Originally Posted by Crankin This was the guy that promoted the last 2 races at Sacramento and he seems to be alive and well: http://www.johnpadjenmotorsports.com/

I think it was also promoted with Don Tognotti....but I may be wrong. He did pass away. I don't think this is why they do not race in Sacramento. I think it has to do with $$'s and horse racing. Padjen has never been one to turn away money.

[FishBurger]

Originally Posted by Jerry Shaw What's the major difference between WoO and USAC? IMO, it's that the WoO has an specific image that they market and they always stay on message. And it doesn't stop once the customer comes through the gate. Because once in their seat, customers are guided through their Outlaw experience by a guy that I would put up against any barker that P.T. Barnum ever employed. Mr. Johnnie Gibson. Jerry

I'm disturbed (that's common knowledge) and concerned that Jerry would know what happens when you "come through the gate" for a WoO event. :eek: Who knew this guy was a closet "winger"? :wink1:

While I'm all for improvements to the USAC product, I will once again trot out that old caution, "Be careful what you wish for." Some, dissatisfied with current 40 to 50 sprinters in the pits (for dirt), apparently long for a WoO like field where half the cars are junk, and half or more of those left are nothing but field fillers. For this, some wish to pay more at the gate and sprinkle the increase through the field. Some desire a more national series like WoO having 8 or 10 regulars chasing points around the country and depending upon locals to run for what's left. Since few of us (fans and competitors) will be able to support USAC in this all over the globe scenario as we have in the past with a more regional strategy, let's put it on TV or the internet so all we need to do is kick back and grab the remote. And if we're not going to schedule against ourselves we either need to drop a couple of divisions or switch to a 75 week calendar. There are only so many raceable weekends in the current 52 week deal. Much of this is of course overstated and tongue in cheek. But, I repeat "Careful what you wish for.". USAC, warts and all, has provided me with the best racing on the planet for over 40 years. I hope the powers that now be will move very carefully with much consideration for any major changes. JMHO, as always. :checkered:

[DonMoore10]

Tagnotti is the guy I was thinking of at Sacra-tomato.. I'm pretty sure that the race went away after he died.

[DonMoore10]

At one time there was a SC race tentatively scheduled for the Fresno Fairgrounds mile. What happened with that? What kind of facility do they have?

[Charles Nungester]

Originally Posted by FishBurger I'm disturbed (that's common knowledge) and concerned that Jerry would know what happens when you "come through the gate" for a WoO event. :eek: Who knew this guy was a closet "winger"? :wink1: While I'm all for improvements to the USAC product, I will once again trot out that old caution, "Be careful what you wish for." Some, dissatisfied with current 40 to 50 sprinters in the pits (for dirt), apparently long for a WoO like field where half the cars are junk, and half or more of those left are nothing but field fillers. For this, some wish to pay more at the gate and sprinkle the increase through the field. Some desire a more national series like WoO having 8 or 10 regulars chasing points around the country and depending upon locals to run for what's left. Since few of us (fans and competitors) will be able to support USAC in this all over the globe scenario as we have in the past with a more regional strategy, let's put it on TV or the internet so all we need to do is kick back and grab the remote. And if we're not going to schedule against ourselves we either need to drop a couple of divisions or switch to a 75 week calendar. There are only so many raceable weekends in the current 52 week deal. Much of this is of course overstated and tongue in cheek. But, I repeat "Careful what you wish for.". USAC, warts and all, has provided me with the best racing on the planet for over 40 years. I hope the powers that now be will move very carefully with much consideration for any major changes. JMHO, as always. :checkered:

Oh Im careful, Careful enough to know and my dad states clearly he'd just rather see a regular show *Which is just as good, only five laps less and cost half as much*

It just sickens me when a track that has ten regulars capable of competing against USAC AND THEY DON'T.

Im not knocking what we have now, It's nice to see 30 of the top drivers under one roof. However I feel it could be better if you can get the locals to upset em from time to time. The biggest win with the crowd durring midget week last year was when Cottle nabbed it at the end.

Chuck