Originally Posted by DAD:
TQ's are a lot like quarter midgets. I raced quarters 45 years ago and the engine there rules specified was the old continental red seal that was an antique back then. They kept this rule up until several years ago and prices for these engines got higher and higher. Now they have two clubs but at least they got new motor rules a real ohv that works stock almost as good as the old "AA fuel motor". They also are getting away from teaching kids how to drive right, taking away calls on blocking, charging, and rough driving, but that would be another post.
We have been running the minisprint toy cars for about 20 years now. Or engine was made in 2008. I had a 750 honda motor cycle in 1974 and it was fast,but times change. Or motor is geared to turn 13500 rpm's and make about 225 hp stock on alchol. Try that with a 2 valve 35 year old 836 honda. Now here is the problem with TQ rules on a small 1/5 to 1/4 mile track we gear around 12.5 to 13.5 to 1 gear. What kind of a ring gear could we find to get that rato with that trick quick change. If any of you guys would like to come and play with us and our toy cars come on. By the way the 750 cc suzucki was considered a boat ancor in mini sprints many years ago and our track times are usually as fast or faster than the sprint cars we share race dates with.
I don't understand your interest, in something you have no involvment in, you do your thing, the way you want to, and the TQ's will do their thing, the way they want to. And yes, I too remember the quarter's, and how expensive the motors got, only the very rich could afford an engine, but only if they had some good rich friend, to get them close to the owners, of what was left of the engine parts. But, I didn't have a dog in their fight, and you don't have one in ours, nor I in yours, so I won't make any attempt to tell you what to do. I have been running a Yamaha, yes, Yamaha, since 05, no problem getting it geared for the bull rings, with a Winters midget QC, I can get down to 12.7 to 1, and if I need to go lower, I can do it with tires, as we don't have a spec tire, and yes, it will turn 13.5 no problem, if you don't do what everyone else does, there are options. We have several "modern" engines running, multivalve, twin cam, however, we are limited to 700cc with the multivalve engines, to keep from opening up a can of worms, and either killing the division, or out costing the owners, it's a long, hard pull, to get some away to the modern engines, mostly because they assume they cost more, which is totally not true, with a modern engine, there is no need for special rods, pistons, cams, valves, nothing, just bypass the trans, so you're driving off the crank, and have at it, I've gone a step further, and made parts to adapt the old ign, oil system, and FI, so the current parts they are using on the Honda's, will cross over and bolt on to the newer engines, but in the past 6 yrs, have not sold that many conversions, why, a perceived cost, and not knowing, is what I lay it on. A low mile engine off ebay, can be had for a lot less than 1k, then put that much again in the conversion, and you now have what a set of rods, and pistons would cost for the Honda, and it'll run at least 2 seasons, my first one, we ran 80 nights, and it is now a spare, and it didn't have a new part in it, hell, the parts weren't even from the same engine, they hadn't seen each other, til I put them together, brgs, rings, nothing. You can continue to bash, if that's your choice, but do it to each other, we don't need your advice, it's a different game, played with different people, and different ideas, and, it's easy. Bob!
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Originally Posted by Ambrose93&39:
So somebody tell me why (other than it's in the rules) TQers won't even consider the possibility of bringing back chain drive? The simplicity and the lower cost alone should be enough to want to run chain drive! There's nothing hard about it, take the motor out of the bike and put it in the car as is!
Ok, then you got yet another bunch of mini-sprints, yeah it's simple, but that isn't what is wanted, if it were, the current TQ's would have disapeared years ago, just how many classes/divisions of mini-sprint cars do you want, there must be at least 15 now. Bob!
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