[treecitytornado]

I agree 100%, Kerry! My students at school even associate Sprint Car racing with Wings and then I explain to them, that I mainly race Non-Wing. I personally love when I get the opportunity to run with a Wing or watch a Winged race!

[treecitytornado]

An American Racer MC3 would be perfect for this class! Hard enough to be durable and keep sharp edges and you can turn it around too! On top of that you can by new ones all day long for $170. No need to design a new tire!

[on_the_edge]

Originally Posted by treecitytornado An American Racer MC3 would be perfect for this class! Hard enough to be durable and keep sharp edges and you can turn it around too! On top of that you can by new ones all day long for $170. No need to design a new tire!

Yes you are right no need for a new tire to be designed, they will probably be running the medium since that's what everyone else around is running and being a low cost class they can buy them used. No one else running american racer would not be cost friendly to a class where I'd say most will not be bolting on a new RR.

[trecraft]

We save money by attaching our fiberglass low back seat with three dzus bottons.

[mscs20]

Originally Posted by KKinser99 I had the same concern when I first heard about this class. I thought it should be non wing. Personally I have seen better nonwing races than wing. After thinking for a while I see things to consider. #1 Wings will be good for the 305's otherwise they will just look like slow underpowered non wings. #2 Everytime I am around general public they associate sprint car racing with being wing rather than non wing. I also notice many kids are into seeing wings sprints more than nonwing. This just happens to be what I observed. Others may totally disagree.

I don't totally disagree, but running 3 classes of the same looking sprints work at Knoxville weekly, and all over PA (305, 360, 410), so whats the reason Bloomington has to be so special? If its all about cost, why add another $1000 on top of a car? And with so many true non wing cars in that area, you cant hand them down at a bargain price because of no wing mounts, the engine is laid back, 53" front axles, shock mounts are different etc etc.
To get this class going right away, drop a 305 in a good used roller.....same Hoosier Medium tire so they can run used ones that are all over the greater Indy area and go race.

In Jacksonville IL it makes sense to run with a wing due to their location.

I see our new friend from Texas, Nathan Moore is starting a 305 Racesaver series without wings based out of the Dallas area, per his Facebook.

[KKinser99]

https://www.hoosiertire.com/pdfs/pbRaceSaver.pdf

[on_the_edge]

Originally Posted by KKinser99 https://www.hoosiertire.com/pdfs/pbRaceSaver.pdf

Well there's the tire resolution, at a reasonable price, but to race at first will have to buy a new stock of them, as the used market will be slim to none starting out.

[ecrouse]

Benefits of wings:

1) Easier to drive - when you are talking about attracting racers from a different division or even getting a fan to start racing, making the car easier to drive is a big step.

2) The wing is not going to affect the life of the motor that much. The 305 motors I worked on never turned over 7600, and that only happened when someone hit you in the a$$ and you spun the tires. Its also 10:1 compression, so its going to last a while. Don't get me wrong, you can stuff 50 points of gear in it so you can turn it 7800 and try to wear it out faster, but the truth is you would run out of pull before you hit the flagstand.

3) New top wing is $600 and new nose wing is $125. You just have to put the rivets in it. That $725 is nice to have when you go for a ride, slowing you down and cushioning the impacts (better for newer racers).

4) MOST IMPORTANT - You have an extra 40 square feet of sponsor space to generate revenue to support your race team! (Wish it actually worked like that)

The 305 class is designed to save the racer money while being competitive. The wong should make it easier to drive, which SHOULD lead to less wrecks, which SHOULD lead to less money spent on repair parts. Even if it was $1000 for the set, its a wise investment.

[treecitytornado]

Many people at Paragon and with BOSS run American Racers and Win! USAC Champ Cars too. Dang good tires for less!

[davidm]

What if the intent of a starter class for Sprints starts producing guys that move up from Winged 305's to non winged 410's in a couple years. Won't that be a good thing?