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View Poll Results: Do you want to qualify?
Yes 50 76.92%
No 15 23.08%
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Bill Gardner (Offline)
  #31 8/5/09 8:47 PM
Sandy... I kinda figured something comparable was already being used... it is interesting to to see all the different ideas from people as to what would be best.

If I were the promoter... what I stated above is exactly how I run all my shows. Along with starting the races earlier... run hotlaps and qualifying then re-work the track. Heat races start at 7pm... run the same format for both sprints and mods. And only run those two classes. Of course I would seriously have to consider running bombers because they always bring lots of people with them. they would have to be straight up draw.

Oh and I need to mention... Track prep would be done all week long.

Maybe one day of these days I will win the lottery and then find out it is much easier to type about what do than it is to actually do it...:2: BTW... I already know that too.

Sandy Lowe (Offline)
  #32 8/5/09 8:49 PM
Thanks to us using SpeedNet Direct at Bloomington that information was online.

If we would have put the cars into the heats by draw and started them by time the heat lineups for the Sheldon Kinser Memorial would have been:

HEAT 1
Mike Hess (17) – Eric Smith (16)
Tim Spindler (14) – Kenny Niflis (3)
Jared Harris (18) – Matt Goodnight (21)
Drew Ikerd (26) – Brian Lake (NT)
Jesse Cramer (NT)

HEAT 2
Shane Cottle (7) – Nic Faas (6)
Brady Short (4) – Jeff Bland, Jr. (1)
Casey Shuman (8) – Ted Hines (9)
Jeff Wimmenauer (10) – Robert Ballou (19)
Kenny Carmichael (23)

HEAT 3
Brent Beauchamp (12) – Ty Deckard (13)
Bryan Clauson (2) – Chad Boat (5)
Danny Holtsclaw (15) – Ethan Barrow (27)
Scott Hampton (33) – Jordan Kinser (37)

HEAT 4
Mike Spencer (24) – Chase Briscoe (22)
Kevin Thomas, Jr. (20) – Jon Stanbrough (11)
Hunter Schuerenberg (28) – Seth Parker (30)
Casey Riggs (31) – Mark Perry III (32)

HEAT 5
Kyle Robbins (35) – Dickie Gaines (34)
Ricky Williams (29) – Kent Christian (25)
Bub Cummings (36) – John Dick (38)
Cam Schafer (39) – Eric Edwards (40)

**The number in parenthesis is where they were ranked by time.


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Of interest is the fact that Robert Ballou was the 19th qualifier out and was 17th fastest.
By using the complete qualifying results to make the heats Robert started on the pole of
Heat 4 (which he won). In the above scenario he would have had an eighth place starting
spot in his heat.
Bill Gardner (Offline)
  #33 8/5/09 9:00 PM
With the exception of a few guys that are always fast... when you look at the entire field the times appear to slow down from car 1 to 42 That is why I like the group qualifying... puts everyone on an even racing surface.

riskybrisky5 (Offline)
  #34 8/5/09 9:52 PM
I know the night Sandy was showing about we started 3rd row inside. With the format she shows we would have been outside front row. After really looking at this I think Bill you are on to something it really does eliminate the effect of a bad draw. But you still have to race hard in your heat for starting position. The only problem I can see with it is you still will have some weaker heats than others but it is still a lot better than a blind draw.
Bill Gardner (Offline)
  #35 8/5/09 10:12 PM
You're right... with this you could have every fast guy at the race in the same heat.... (kinda like being at a sprint week race... eh... ) and all the slower less experienced drivers in another... but with the good crop of drivers we now have in sprint cars... I am comfortable that quality guys will still finish up front.


Oh.. and BTW... Happy Birthday

randyrad (Offline)
  #36 8/5/09 10:59 PM
from a fan's perspective, qualifying -
...gives the PA a chance to tell you a little about each driver & team --> makes it easier to remember who's who when racing starts.
...teams that tour around, but don't race for points at a single track or series, are more likely to drop in if they have a chance to compete for a good starting spot rather than being handicapped to the rear.
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Motormasher (Offline)
  #37 8/6/09 12:39 AM
Nobody should be penalized three times because of a "bad draw".

1 Start in the back of a heat because of a bad draw and crash or flat tire, 2 have to start on tail of Bmain and IF you make the feature 3 start on the tail of it.

If you bust your a$$ to make the show like this you should at least get your qualifying time back.
Sprint63122 (Offline)
  #38 8/6/09 1:11 AM
They need to run the osky format sprint bandit format best deal there is.Seen to many people lay down a quick time and stroke it in the heat so they can start up front in the b and then get there time back for the a which says to me is they can only go fast by themselves and if you have to earn it racing they can not do it.If you need to race by yourself and need a time to set you up then go drag racing they you will not have to come close to anyone else at all.
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