[slide22]

violin why are you so againt the new club?

Originally Posted by slide22 violin why are you so againt the new club?

It is the way The Ferchettes went about this and the real reason that they did it. If they would be honest this started after an incident last season at Anderson Speedway. And I have a problem with people that know nothing about racing trying to buy their way in and down the people that have spent their lives, blood, sweat and tears building something. What the Ferchettes are touting that won't happen in their club is exactly what they did at Anderson and why this whole thing has started.

[badcoupe]

I think if the racers are smart thet will go to the tracks that they like, are closer to their home, or pay the most. As a former car owner in the umra thats what I would do anyhow. I don't think the new club is about alienating a certain team as much as it is taking bias out of the equation.

Originally Posted by violin1937 It is the way The Ferchettes went about this and the real reason that they did it. If they would be honest this started after an incident last season at Anderson Speedway. And I have a problem with people that know nothing about racing trying to buy their way in and down the people that have spent their lives, blood, sweat and tears building something. What the Ferchettes are touting that won't happen in their club is exactly what they did at Anderson and why this whole thing has started.

:greenflag: if the true be known i heard about a newclub being started before the anderson race started. it was just the straw that broke the camels back. so if had any clue at all . i talk about ten other people that what to start a new club because of a the ******** in the umra . i HAVE NOTHING AGAINST EITHER CLUB but raced with umra for a ittle bit it might be nice to have an alternet choose. :checkered:

ps maybe the accident was not on intentional ,but if u cant control ur car on a track where sprint car run 3 abreast maybe you shouldnot race.:icon_smile_blackeye:checkered:

[MKTQ17]

STP

Member
Heat Race Winner



Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Racing Capital of the World
Posts: 217 Re: Tate Martz

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Originally Posted by JPM
just a question not pro or anti goff but what would happen when a so called green car pulled into a midwestern tq midget pits. would they not be allowed to race with this league or are all cares that fit the rules allowed to race?

to a real question is it time that the umra reduced the age limit to race to get more cars? I would say that they could get people that run mini sprints , kenyons, and focus cars.


UMRA=

It will be a private club and they will NOT be welcomed.

I don't think even changing the age limit would make a difference for them. There are too many people in running the club that can't see the light of day. We are planning to include drivers 14 and up as long as they are willing to sign a race emmancipation agreement. I want the league to be a transition from karts to sprints. And welcome career members and those wishing to use it as a stepping stone to the next level.

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Just a quote that I remembered STP posted when they began their club. This also backs up what violin is saying. "just trying to buy there way in" and backs up what I say "they are not promoting TQ racing" which is fine thay can do what they want and drivers can choose to or not to support them. Just don't advertise your private club like everyone can come and race!

Michael Koontz #17
To be the best you must beat the best!

Originally Posted by violin1937 Are the Ferchettes renting the race track?

:greenflag:so what is wrong with renting a track. It make perfect sents the pay to promote the race and recieve all the profit. were i come from that pretty smart. I think thats where the umra got the extra money for the mtlawn race. when they ran the race at greensburg the week before. why would the greensburg toursim group sponsor race in a different county . :checkered:

[STPHusband]

Originally Posted by MKTQ17 STP Member Heat Race Winner Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Racing Capital of the World Posts: 217 Re: Tate Martz -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by JPM just a question not pro or anti goff but what would happen when a so called green car pulled into a midwestern tq midget pits. would they not be allowed to race with this league or are all cares that fit the rules allowed to race? to a real question is it time that the umra reduced the age limit to race to get more cars? I would say that they could get people that run mini sprints , kenyons, and focus cars. UMRA= It will be a private club and they will NOT be welcomed. I don't think even changing the age limit would make a difference for them. There are too many people in running the club that can't see the light of day. We are planning to include drivers 14 and up as long as they are willing to sign a race emmancipation agreement. I want the league to be a transition from karts to sprints. And welcome career members and those wishing to use it as a stepping stone to the next level. ************************************************** *********** Just a quote that I remembered STP posted when they began their club. This also backs up what violin is saying. "just trying to buy there way in" and backs up what I say "they are not promoting TQ racing" which is fine thay can do what they want and drivers can choose to or not to support them. Just don't advertise your private club like everyone can come and race! Michael Koontz #17 To be the best you must beat the best!

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Michael,

1) Not sure how in that statement you get ("just trying to buy there way in")

2) The statement was made out of the respects we have for the Martz and Ramsey Family.

TQ racing is much much more than just one team.

Mark F Frechette
President
MTQRL

[Sandy Lowe]

MKTQ17,

I'm glad you took the time to quote a post made on August 24, 2008 at 12:43 pm.

I think the MTQRL Rule Book (effective date 1/1/09) posted on their website would be the more accurate stance on who would be eligible to compete in MTQRL:

LICENSING AND REGISTRATION
7.0 Licenses: Any person may become a registered owner/driver of the league upon
payment of the active annual dues and execution of an Agreement of Release.

After your first post on IOW where you stated that the new club was started to exclude a certain team from competition (paraphrasing from Post #12 in this thread) TQ97 responded by quoting this same rule from MTQRL.

As far as I am concerned they have a rule that says if you join their club and you sign a release you can race with them. Their registration form is posted on their website too. It is just standard questions, name, address, tax info, etc. Nowhere does it ask what color your car is, if you've been involved in ontrack altercations with other drivers, been suspended or reprimanded by other organizations, etc.

My belief is that whatever the color of your car, or your last name, as long as you pay their dues and abide by their rules you will be welcome to race with the MTQRL.

Just as I feel the same will be true for any MTQRL regulars who show up to race with the UMRA on off weekends when the MTQRL isn't racing.

Sandy Lowe

[Sandy Lowe]

To everyone who is involved, or has been involved, in three-quarter midget racing and is bickering on IOW and airing all of your dirty laundry in public, you are not helping.

Take your energy, anger, etc. and try to figure out a way to get UMRA and MTQRL to come together and be one strong club instead of two weak ones.

UMRA's average car count last year was 28.64. If you take out the pavement races (which averaged 22) the car count bumps up a little to 30.69. UMRA's highest car count was 35.

The most TQ's competing on any one night was 40. This was when the MTQRL held their first race (17 cars) the same night as UMRA's season closer (23 cars).

You need more people to become involved in three-quarter midget racing as car owners and drivers. Do you think anyone who reads the bickering on IOW is going to buy a TQ and race with either club?

If you want three-quarter midget racing to be successful make positive posts on IOW. Or just not post at all.

If your intentions are to rip apart three-quarter midget racing and have it fail then go right ahead and continue with your negative posts.

Sandy Lowe

[TQ29m]

Sandy, I want to thank you, for your post, I was thinking of doing the same thing. All this "demolition", by people hiding their identity, only adds to the dark shadow, being cast by their comments, and puts ALL Tq racing in danger. What is currently happening, has been "festering", for at least 10 years. The fact that a new organization has been formed, and has been successful so far, only brings out the need, for a real deep look, into this form of racing. Hiding identity, taking cheap shots, doesn't bring people together, it only makes the whole TQ racing, in general, look bad. Thanks again, Sandy! Bob