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Sprintcarfanatic (Offline)
  #31 8/8/11 5:34 PM
1 heat of compacts with that finish inverted for the feature would have been excellent.
stif racing (Offline)
  #32 8/8/11 6:12 PM
I didn't think the program was all that late considering they ran six classes and qualified 32 sprint cars and got started late due to the rain, it was after 7 before we started hot laps so to me wasn't that bad.
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Rogue-9 (Offline)
  #33 8/8/11 8:15 PM
Originally Posted by WRP:
We do apologize for the late finish to the racing program. On any typical Saturday night, even with running 6 classes, we are done shortly after 11:00PM. Unfortunately Mother Nature decided she wanted us to be behind the rest of the night.

We are very glad to hear that you enjoyed the racing and are thrilled to have you at WRP for the Jack Hewitt Classic. We hope to see you back again sometime.

A little constructive criticism. I drove from Indianapolis for the Hewitt. I came for sprint cars. Out here in Indiana, they always run the sprints first, as that is most popular, then modifieds, then street stock classes. That way, people with kids, or people that don't want to stay too late can leave after the sprints and/or modifieds if they choose to. Personally I like modifieds. However, I had a three hour drive, it was already midnight, so I left after the sprints. Here's what irked me. The fact that I had to sit through a bunch of 4-cylinder stocks before the sprints, and had I stayed to watch the modifieds, I would have had to watch the street stocks as well. Had I been a half-hour from home, I would have had no problem staying to watch the little guys run. However, this being a special 3,000 to win race in honor of Jack Hewitt, a legend, I decided to make the 160 mile trip out to your facility, and had to sit through compacts, and then had to miss the modifieds in order to just be home by 3 in the morning. Not trying to be a jerk, just a little constructive criticism for the next time you have a big show that will draw fans from larger distances.
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Andrew S. Quinn (Offline)
  #34 8/8/11 8:31 PM
Originally Posted by Rogue-9:
A little constructive criticism. I drove from Indianapolis for the Hewitt. I came for sprint cars. Out here in Indiana, they always run the sprints first, as that is most popular, then modifieds, then street stock classes. That way, people with kids, or people that don't want to stay too late can leave after the sprints and/or modifieds if they choose to. Personally I like modifieds. However, I had a three hour drive, it was already midnight, so I left after the sprints. Here's what irked me. The fact that I had to sit through a bunch of 4-cylinder stocks before the sprints, and had I stayed to watch the modifieds, I would have had to watch the street stocks as well. Had I been a half-hour from home, I would have had no problem staying to watch the little guys run. However, this being a special 3,000 to win race in honor of Jack Hewitt, a legend, I decided to make the 160 mile trip out to your facility, and had to sit through compacts, and then had to miss the modifieds in order to just be home by 3 in the morning. Not trying to be a jerk, just a little constructive criticism for the next time you have a big show that will draw fans from larger distances.
Well said
lovindirt
  #35 8/8/11 9:07 PM
I will say this, I run sprints, have for many years. But I do care about all people. I like it that WRP gives the same respect to all. People in the compacts do have children also,needless to say I believe that probably in every division someone has kids. And lots of people drove a long ways. I would venture to say some probably drove more then 3 hrs. I just feel people look for something to complain about all the time be happy we have a great track like WRP that gives the same respect to all divisions. Just because we are sprints we don't rule the earth, nor do we rule WRP. Every person there wants to get home for some reason or another. Suck it up everyone. They have to sell more dogs to stay open, and if 75% of the crowd leaves after Sprints, then thats 75% more dogs not sold each time. And that helps pay the overhead. Keep up the good work guys.
JMO Jeff
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BigDadXXL
  #36 8/8/11 9:10 PM
Originally Posted by Rogue-9:
A little constructive criticism. I drove from Indianapolis for the Hewitt. I came for sprint cars. Out here in Indiana, they always run the sprints first, as that is most popular, then modifieds, then street stock classes. That way, people with kids, or people that don't want to stay too late can leave after the sprints and/or modifieds if they choose to. Personally I like modifieds. However, I had a three hour drive, it was already midnight, so I left after the sprints. Here's what irked me. The fact that I had to sit through a bunch of 4-cylinder stocks before the sprints, and had I stayed to watch the modifieds, I would have had to watch the street stocks as well. Had I been a half-hour from home, I would have had no problem staying to watch the little guys run. However, this being a special 3,000 to win race in honor of Jack Hewitt, a legend, I decided to make the 160 mile trip out to your facility, and had to sit through compacts, and then had to miss the modifieds in order to just be home by 3 in the morning. Not trying to be a jerk, just a little constructive criticism for the next time you have a big show that will draw fans from larger distances.
I am posting under my personal account, as this may or may not reflect the views of management at WRP.

I personally hate when a track puts the Sprint Cars ahead of everyone else. The weekly racers deserve to get exposure in front of a big crowd just as much as any of the sprint car drivers.

With that said, I do want to give my take on why the Sprints were placed 3rd for their feature. Cub Burden, who does all of the track prep at Waynesfield, owns a sprint car that Devon Dobie competes in. Cub raced for several years and is highly knowledgeable when it comes to track conditions. Cub had us rearrange the order of events and I believe it had to do with 2 things. The first is to give the Sprint car teams who transferred from the B Main time to prepare their cars for the A. The second is to get cars on the track that could help widen it out before the Sprint Car A Main to help provide some more room for passing, in turn making for a better race. I will tell you for a fact that Cub does not like putting modifieds on the track before the Sprint Cars, as he believes they tear up a track.

I want to ask you a question. How would you feel if you were a fan, family member, or crew member of one of the guys in the "support classes, and you had to be ran behind the sprint cars every week? Wouldn't that make you feel like a second class citizen? Personally, if it were my decision, the Sprint Cars would be 3rd every week, and the rest of the classes would rotate around them, but again, that's just my opinion.

Almost everyone who knows me, knows I'm not a fan of running 6 classes. It is a ton of work and makes things difficult to run a quick program sometimes. I do however support the reason that track owner/promoter Greg Shobe is doing it. Everyone thinks its about back gate promoting, but its about loyalty. Greg told the teams last year that he would not cut anyone this year. He brought back the stock cars as a favor to a sponsor who continued to sponsor the track even after the class that he supported was cut.

Finally, I do understand about having to drive a long distance to get to the racetrack and have to get home late. I live an hour away from Waynesfield as it is. My Dad was a street stock racer and we did some traveling when I was a kid to go racing. I remember nights of not getting home until 3 or 4 in the morning because of rain delays. In a perfect world it would be sunny on race day and there would never be any dust, but that wouldn't have left time to make lifelong friends, and memories that I will always cherish.
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Phylo82 (Offline)
  #37 8/8/11 9:16 PM
Great post Gerry.

As soon as I heard the sprint A-main was third I figured those were most likely the reasons. I'm sure the rain had the track tacky and the two features before the sprints helped to work it in.

Heck, Brownstown did the same thing a couple of weeks back and ran the Mini-Sprints before the USAC feature for the same reason.

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Johnhunt (Offline)
  #38 8/8/11 9:30 PM
Saturday was my first trip to WRP. Did I care to watch the compacts? Nope. Trucks? Nope. Stocks? Not really. Mods? Kinda. Was I blown away by the sprints and impressed by the mini sprints? Yep. My point is all tracks run support classes, and while I don't care for some of them, some people do. What bothers me is no one has talked about how snappy of a show it really was. Probably the fastest I've seen 32 cars qualify, especially impressive since it was their first time at timing. There was virtually no downtime between races. I'd really like to see a usac sprint and midget double header there. I think the action would be mind blowing and maybe they could teach usac how to run a snappy show
In all, WRP gets a thumbs up from me and I'd go back!
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Rogue-9 (Offline)
  #39 8/8/11 9:41 PM
Originally Posted by BigDadXXL:
I am posting under my personal account, as this may or may not reflect the views of management at WRP.

I personally hate when a track puts the Sprint Cars ahead of everyone else. The weekly racers deserve to get exposure in front of a big crowd just as much as any of the sprint car drivers.

With that said, I do want to give my take on why the Sprints were placed 3rd for their feature. Cub Burden, who does all of the track prep at Waynesfield, owns a sprint car that Devon Dobie competes in. Cub raced for several years and is highly knowledgeable when it comes to track conditions. Cub had us rearrange the order of events and I believe it had to do with 2 things. The first is to give the Sprint car teams who transferred from the B Main time to prepare their cars for the A. The second is to get cars on the track that could help widen it out before the Sprint Car A Main to help provide some more room for passing, in turn making for a better race. I will tell you for a fact that Cub does not like putting modifieds on the track before the Sprint Cars, as he believes they tear up a track.

I want to ask you a question. How would you feel if you were a fan, family member, or crew member of one of the guys in the "support classes, and you had to be ran behind the sprint cars every week? Wouldn't that make you feel like a second class citizen? Personally, if it were my decision, the Sprint Cars would be 3rd every week, and the rest of the classes would rotate around them, but again, that's just my opinion.

Almost everyone who knows me, knows I'm not a fan of running 6 classes. It is a ton of work and makes things difficult to run a quick program sometimes. I do however support the reason that track owner/promoter Greg Shobe is doing it. Everyone thinks its about back gate promoting, but its about loyalty. Greg told the teams last year that he would not cut anyone this year. He brought back the stock cars as a favor to a sponsor who continued to sponsor the track even after the class that he supported was cut.

Finally, I do understand about having to drive a long distance to get to the racetrack and have to get home late. I live an hour away from Waynesfield as it is. My Dad was a street stock racer and we did some traveling when I was a kid to go racing. I remember nights of not getting home until 3 or 4 in the morning because of rain delays. In a perfect world it would be sunny on race day and there would never be any dust, but that wouldn't have left time to make lifelong friends, and memories that I will always cherish.
When I go to a local show, I always stay for everything. I wouldn't mind such a rotation for normal weekly events. However, this was a special event with fans coming from much larger distances than normal, and your going to want to run what they came for smoothly in order to get them to come back. That is the point I was trying to make. Just a suggestion to keep fans driving three hours for the Hewitt, and to help this event grow.
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J&T Photos (Offline)
  #40 8/8/11 10:14 PM
Originally Posted by ruts n guts:
Saturday was my first trip to WRP. Did I care to watch the compacts? Nope. Trucks? Nope. Stocks? Not really. Mods? Kinda. Was I blown away by the sprints and impressed by the mini sprints? Yep. My point is all tracks run support classes, and while I don't care for some of them, some people do. What bothers me is no one has talked about how snappy of a show it really was. Probably the fastest I've seen 32 cars qualify, especially impressive since it was their first time at timing. There was virtually no downtime between races. I'd really like to see a usac sprint and midget double header there. I think the action would be mind blowing and maybe they could teach usac how to run a snappy show
In all, WRP gets a thumbs up from me and I'd go back!
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Here you can check out some of the photos from the Hewitt Classic
http://www.jandtphotos.com/page1.php...st&category=16

Did someone say the track was fast and had grip?? Hewitt even had the two seater up on two wheels..
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