[revjimk]

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester Eldora scrapes the cushion off, the features are probably 2 seconds a lap slower than before they took the banking out and more often than not has a catfish winner you couldn't see half the track due to the haulers. Everything but the tracks improved. It used to be take your breath away on the wall and monster sliders. I also always remember waves of dust but never the way its been where you can't see the whole turn four. Don't know if its the new lighting from the inside or what.

Whats a "catfish winner"?

[revjimk]

Originally Posted by racephoto1 Where's Tri State? Three , four wide, wheelies, and close racing.

Good question. I only went there once, & got permanently hooked on Indiana bullrings. Good racing
I went to Trophy Cup at Tulare a few years ago, excited about the total inversion, but it was constant wrecks (even on hot laps!), one yellow flag after another... got old
But I'd still give it another try....

[Charles Nungester]

Originally Posted by revjimk Whats a "catfish winner"?

Running around the bottom. Catfishing.

[bobby01]

Originally Posted by Blueracer123 Insurance has been hurting tracks like Eldora. They want to see a dry slick track as they think it is safer for racing. It just makes the racing not as exciting. But if you read the descriptions for the top 10 list the person said at least one of the tracks was on their list because of the atmosphere. Eldora should be there for atmosphere alone. But I'm in the minority that thinks Kokomo is over rated also (yes I said it, blasphamy for most of you, I know)

I worked for a racing insurance company for a lot years and when someone tells you that the insurance company said they have to do something that's a baLD face lie.Insurance companys don't make rules or have anyone prepare a racetrack in any certain way

[Charles Nungester]

Originally Posted by bobby01 I worked for a racing insurance company for a lot years and when someone tells you that the insurance company said they have to do something that's a baLD face lie.Insurance companys don't make rules or have anyone prepare a racetrack in any certain way

Don't know if it was insurance or the city but I remember one of the two telling LBurg they had to cut the front straight 30ft from the wall. Put a ten ft no standing rope around the turn one area and rope off the top five rows of the grandstand.

[PJ Wright]

Originally Posted by Backitin Williams Grove shouldn't be on the list, I doubt it's even in the top 25. They have unreal top speed, but that's about it. Is the list about tradition or good racing ? I hate freight train racing, theres more passing in one good lap at say Kokomo then the entire race at a fast winged track. Maybe one of the best sights in all of racing is watching the guys bang their right rear off the wall at Kokomo.

I've only been to Williams Grove once, but the night I was there the 410 feature had 3 different leaders....on the last lap!

[Racer12]

If you don't like TeeJay's list then make your own site and put a top 10 list on it! Been to Eldora many, many times. It is nothing like it used to be.

Bob

[Charles Nungester]

Whats funny is Johnny Gibsons list was on Hoseheads about six months ago and THAT, BURG and Kokomo were way up there too! Very few tracks that guys not been too and most of them several times.

[jim goerge]

[QUOTE=RichH;438931]Ive been to 7 of 10 plus many of the oldies. I can understand the diversity of opinion on Eldora... it's been the scene of some of the best and, yes, worst sprint races ever. Why they have the dust problem that other less well financed facilities dont is a mystery. Nevertheless, the stands are usually full
I was at the great USAC DUST OUT , couple years back. Could hear the sprints come down the front straight , but couldn't see them, and that was first set of hot laps. That's last bit of money Tony has gotten from me.

[Blueracer123]

Originally Posted by bobby01 I worked for a racing insurance company for a lot years and when someone tells you that the insurance company said they have to do something that's a baLD face lie.Insurance companys don't make rules or have anyone prepare a racetrack in any certain way

So while in a meeting with 3 highly respected promoters in January, when they talked insurance and what they were told, I should have spouted out that they were bold faced liars? The companies as not making any rules that they must be dry slick but they are recommending that the tracks slow down the cars and the way they highly recommend is a dry slick track. At least that's what I overheard 3 prominent promoters discuss.