[T&A Racing]

I have heard people bring this up for a long time now about having a better format for USAC qualifying and such. Honestly, I am not sure how long I have heard it, but enough that it gets old. Same arguement always. I really get tired of hearing it.

I think it is just fine the way it is. I am just glad to be watching the race when I go.

[nowings29]

Just do away with getting your time back if you have to run the Bmain. Plain and simple as that. Start straight up how you finish B you start no better than 17th if you win. Top 6 qualifiers that make it out of heat races are inverted and then start from 7th with guys that made it out of heat races that didn't qualify in top 6.

I by no means am an expert having never strapped into one of these machines...I have however been around racing for more 20 plus years and have been fortunate enough to call many of the best to race sprints friends....with that said...i can honestly say i have never heard any of them complain about a format that gives them an oppurtunity to put their night of racing in their own hands....

The current format allows them to have 2 laps to make their own nights destiny....every last chance race so far has had various cars from local teams to the best that USAC have to offer....it's just what sprintweek and racing with USAC dictates.

Like Jerry said....nothing was given to Josh when he lined up in the front row of his heat at the burg...then raced his butt off and held off some of the very best to transfer into the main....his night's racing was put into his contro because he made the invert...and raced as hard as i can remember seeing him race and made it...walking by his pit after that heat was cool...because the sense of accomplishment in his and Jerry's eyes is why IMO this format is the best format.....leave it in the driver's hands....2 laps of hard..balls to the wall qualifying and then race hard...knowing the sense of urgency of making the cut...it's what it takes in my eyes to run with the best....not the luck of a draw!

funk....i agree with you....leave well enough alone!

[767]

Originally Posted by Dyno Don Who ever said life or racing was fair. Take what you get and live with it. Do the best you can and hope you get a break to put you on top. That is the trouble with society today. Everybody wants things to be fair, but in the real world, life is not fair.

yup life's not fair, thats why there are 20 to 30 cars sitting on the sidelines this week. Simple put the raceing back into this sport!

[Offy22]

Originally Posted by nowings29 Just do away with getting your time back if you have to run the Bmain. Start straight up how you finish B you start no better than 17th if you win.

I agree, if you have to race the B then you race in the A behind those that got in through their heat.:thumb

[Racerrob]

I like most things about the present format but I would change it to what the USAC/CRA does (or did in years past). If you don't transfer from through your heat the best you can start is 7th (behind the invert).

This penalizes the guys that don't race hard in their heat because they know they will start in the front of the B but also doesn't give them the death penalty and force them to start 17th for not being able to pass 4 cars on a track that has not widened out enough to allow passing.

I think this is a fair compromise and would address many of the concerns expressed in this thread.

I don't like a draw format as all too often you can get placed behind a guy who has no business starting up front and you get taken out in a heat race. I know everyone starts somewhere (I took out Keven Huntley in my second race ever as he was lapping me in a feature at the Burg in 1989). At least with qualifying, it can eliminate some of that in a heat race.

If they wanted to start all the cars that qualified in the 4 - twelve lap heats I would not have a problem with that either as long as we maintained an 8 car invert due to the above issue. So if at Kokomo we had run 4 - 14 car heats, top 4 to the A, next 4 to the B and remainder to the C with top 6 transfering out of the C AND getting their time back and top 6 transfering out of the B AND getting their time back with the exception of the top 6 starting spots which would be reserved for the top 6 qualifers that transfered through their heats.

This might be the best of all worlds.

Rob Hoffman

[Kirk Spridgeon]

Rob got it. That's pretty much what I like, too.

The one reason I like the Last Chance races is because it keeps some guys out of the heats who probably will ruin the good heat racing.

A wise friend of mine suggested adding a C Main after the heats, so the LCQ guys get another chance to advance forward. That way, we could also trim down the B Main a little so there's not 24 cars out there for one race that only transfers six.

[Charles Nungester]

Thems good points or just add a fifth heat, drop the LCQ and add a C main.
Same format, Top 8 of each heat inverted. That system works to create great racing. This is also why I kinda like a top 10-12 invert for the feature as well but thats never going to happen.

Chuck

[AustinSprinter]

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester Thems good points or just add a fifth heat, drop the LCQ and add a C main. Same format, Top 8 of each heat inverted. That system works to create great racing. This is also why I kinda like a top 10-12 invert for the feature as well but thats never going to happen. Chuck

Way ta go Chuck!!...Nice to meet ya at da 'Burg!!.....Brucer'

[Pat O'Connor Fan]

Seems to me that Rob Hoffman's thoughts are the best so far on this topic :respect: