[mr nobody]

Originally Posted by Jonr Dude, my pain meds have me on a roll. If you going to call me out at least know who in the world I am. Could it be more than one person does not like your ignorant rants. I get tired of people bashing USAC but yet they have binders on about other series that have issues. I also get tired of the SC faithful that think that USAC is trying to kill the series. If the gold crown cars would have worked, it had the possibility of being a huge series playing in front of huge tracks. Fuel sponsor for the series,how is that a bad idea. Taking the series to a new track, where it could be on the same weekend as an iconic race, how is that a bad idea? Maybe the problem is not USAC, but the crappy SC cars themselves. Posted via Mobile Device

If I have to spell it out for you I will. Jay Carney is the press seceretary for the President. He is known for deflecting the topic onto other issues that have nothing to do with the original topic. Also, ignorant rants? How are fack filled statements so called "ignorant rants" unless they are statements that you don't want to hear.

Lets look at the rest of your post shall we. Gold Crown cars would never have worked. Forcing owners to buy a new car and making obsolete half the chassis's that were out there isn't a good way to launch a new series or help an existing series. But wait, for those with massive amounts of money or the ones who mandated it but never had to buy them I bet they never considered that. Fuel sponsor for the series that mandates everyone run that fuel and that fuel only which (as has been stated on here) caused engine failures, overheating problems, and the maker never offered to help pay for engine retrofitting that had to be done to make the engines run properly. Again, more costs forced on the owners that was only around for one year before methanol was reapproved for the series. Taking the series to a new track, while a good idea, showed to not work out at all and actually embarrassed the series and USAC more then it helped. If you going to do that make it a two race swing so that more teams have a viable hope to make it affordable.

Since you see them as "crappy cars themselves" why do you even care about this to begin with? If I found something to be "crappy" I wouldn't give a damn what happened to it. That's why I don't concern myself with WNBA, Tennis, Golf, 90% of Olympic sports, The World Series of Poker, WWE, MLB, soap operas, of reality TV.

[DaveP63]

Originally Posted by johnnythunderhead seems as though usac worked hard (I won't say destroying), ah, ah, let's say decreasing the champ cars from 50-60 plus to 13, and it seems the midgets are next from the looks of it. I gotta admit, i'm not wild about champ cars (its a shame what's happened to them though)/ but I am wild about midgets and I really don't know who to blame in respect to their decline? Yeah, i know, the quality is still there, but in my book, quantity's a big consideration too! Posted via Mobile Device

$40K plus midget engines, turning motors 12-14K, purses that haven't changed since the 80's and 90's, semi trailers, super teams, pavement only cars, super soft tires, titanium, clutches and starters, ect. have all helped run the mom and pop teams out of the sport. I started driving midgets in the 80's and so did a lot of the guys I've worked for and with over the years, so I have a big soft spot for them. I owned my own **** and had an open trailer. We used to have organizations everywhere (Buckeye, MARA, SLMRA, just to name a few) and about 25-30 cars just about everywhere you went. Sure, a lot of them were older, but they weren't obsoleted overnight, like now. There were Cosworths, Sescos, Chevy IIs, VWs, V-6s, Gaertes, Eslingers and god only knows what else. We went from having a lot of cars at TH for the Hut, to having about 36 (IIRC) the last year we ran midgets (with the V-4 boat anchor with clutch and starter). The one constant? IMO, it was 16th and Georgetown pandering to the the big boys to make it more of an "elite" series. They never gave a crap about the little guy and they still don't. There's a lot more behind it than just that, but this is long enough already.

[BrentTFunk]

Originally Posted by Jonr Dude, my pain meds have me on a roll. If you going to call me out at least know who in the world I am. Could it be more than one person does not like your ignorant rants. I get tired of people bashing USAC but yet they have binders on about other series that have issues. I also get tired of the SC faithful that think that USAC is trying to kill the series. If the gold crown cars would have worked, it had the possibility of being a huge series playing in front of huge tracks. Fuel sponsor for the series,how is that a bad idea. Taking the series to a new track, where it could be on the same weekend as an iconic race, how is that a bad idea? Maybe the problem is not USAC, but the crappy SC cars themselves. Posted via Mobile Device

I agree with you when comes to the "experts" on here that constantly bash USAC, many times with false imformation, but I don't think they are crappy cars. I don't think there are very many people who are interested in owning or racing the ones they own. They are also not as appealing to people, and are a niche audience.I think it is real funny when people blame the people who run USAC now for the new pavement cars, when they changed leadership after that failed. It is tough for any series to draw cars like the old days. Take the Knoxville Nationals. I can remember going there and they talked of capping entries at 100 per qualifing night. Now they don't get 100 total. It is no ones fault, its just the way it is. The only way I see to fix it, is to lower the cost to compete in every class, but that ain't going to happen.

[PJ Wright]

Jonr; Perhaps you should leave the defense of USAC to Brent. He's able to articulate his position effectively and without insult. When you attempt to blame the problems of the SC series on the "crappy" cars, you're not doing USAC any favors. Sadly, just mentioning USAC quickly polarizes any conversation. JMO

[JSR22]

A big CONGRATULATIONS to Tracy Hines and Mark Lightfoot Racing on their win on the high banks at Belleville in the USAC Silver Crown Series!!!
Mark has worked very hard putting together a good Silver Crown program. It's awesome to see they finally got their first win together.