[1021gpa]

first i wanna say i wasnt at the burg saturday but i was at brownstown when the umra ran there few weeks ago...and there was only 19 or 20 cars there why all the bashing over how many cars was at the burg? and do you really think the umra put on a good show at brownstown? and from a fans point of view i think the new series is the best thing to ever happen to tq racing ...and as far as lawrenceburg and motor issues i really believe it is way to big of a track for these motors since it was rebuilt...i know we will not run down there anymore with the mini sprint

[TQ29m]

Originally Posted by Cincy Dirt Bowl I watched a couple heats, and what I took from it was that the engines are the problem. Even the cars that were running out front had some sickness in their engines. I think the engine rules need to be updated. Your running engines from the 1970's, and it is lots of work and money to cut a transmission off a motor that was designed to have a trans. Why do you have to conect right to the crank shaft? If only the rule about having to go direct to the crankshaft were changed the entire world of TQ racing would benfit. Heres why. - The engines could be bought at a fraction of the cost TQ racers are spending now. You can get a complete engine kit for less than one of those down draft heads cost. (There are 2 2007Kaw 636s on E-bay right now for $650 buy it now) All you would need is to have the wiring harness cut (Jeff Barker $175) and a drive shaft coupler like mod lites, dwarf cars, and legend cars run. You can still run a drive shaft through the drivers legs, and to the quick change. You wouldn't need four wheelers anymore because now you would have a clutch and on board starters. Think about how much time it would save to be able to have all the cars start up and take off by them self. Plus not having to buy a 4-wheeler. Look how many mini-sprints had motor problems. Very few. If you could run a stock engine with the trans, you would see the engine problems go away and a whole lot more of the cars finishing the race. I think the TQ series up east runs engines like these and they are offset so that the drive shaft runs outside the car. Plus they some how have the rules to where 600 mini-sprints can run with them and that helps car count. I don't own a TQ, but if this rule was changed I would! I bet a bunch more people would also.

First let me say, thanks for your input, I'd like to comment on your type of car, if I may, and that is the wing, which as I've been reading on here, several want to run without, which would be of interest to me, but, back to the engines, the car that won, was running a 600cc Kawasaki, the one that finished 5th, a 600cc Yamaha, the black 55, a 600cc Suzuki, and the car was jumping out of gear, was the reason he pulled in. I personally don't know of any engine failures, most dropouts were for other reasons, I don't, and never have felt, that bigger tracks are harder on engines, if we were to run, say 100 lap races, maybe. One other reason this split has occured is, the original organization was wanting to ban the new engines, and make it a Honda 836 only club, those of us that were branching out, into new technology, would have been left with no where to go. We run what we run, mostly by choice, and if the decision had been made to change everything, now would have been a poor time. Somewhere down the road, someone may decide to go to a out of bike motor, but not right away, we'll see how you get along with your non-wing efforts, and continue to feel out the prospects. Yes, hands down, the new tech engines are cheaper, no special aftermarket parts needed, just buy it, and run it, my Yamaha, a 2000 YZF600R, bought from Ebay, as parts from several engines, was never intended to race, only as a dummy, to see how much was required to change on the chassis, to make it usable, it was installed in Sept of 05, won it's first night heat race, and hasn't been out since, it has over 80 nights of racing on it, and very little done to the "parts" engine, oil changes, and I treat it to a new set of plugs every year. Time will tell, but in the meantime, I imagine we'll keep it pretty much like it is. As for the track size, we ran almost the same gear, that we run at Bloomington and Vernon, and by the way, was that track smooth, or was it smooth? Great job, Dave and crew, we won't be concerned about a return visit. Thanks! Bob McClure

[Bill Gardner]

Originally Posted by tqracerxx you just dont like hearing facts, truth hurts ?

Since the truth or factual information is so important in this thread...

Originally Posted by Admin Multiple login detected from fanrace. Other recognized logins for this user are: tqracerxx ...

[TqMidget41&84]

Originally Posted by Bill Gardner Since the truth or factual information is so important in this thread...

Imagine that.....who would have thought a person would actually do that ! lol

[24midgets]

Originally Posted by Bill Gardner Since the truth or factual information is so important in this thread...

this is proble two different people that live in the same house like husband and wife.
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[Shawn]

Yeah, imagine that. It's typical of what a lot of people, including me, has been trying to say. The other series has to look at themselves in the mirror to see why there was EVER a thought of another series. The people that are trying to "stir the pot" need to start acting like adults and concentrate on doing good things with their series. Go out and put on a good show and move on.

Congrats to the MTQRL for getting their season started, finally! It will only get better, I'm sure.

I think saying that it's a husband and wife is giving way too much credit. It's the same person.

The fact is...that the MTQRL was only formed to get rid of one particular team, in my opinion. Everyone knows who this team is. This particular team has done nothing more or nothing less than anyone else. I guess this is because they seem to be always held to a "higher standard". Could be due to their success or maybe people just don't like them. As a supporter of many different types of racing, and a spectator of many TQ races, I personally have never seen this particular team do anything that anyone else has not done themselves. However, I have noticed the fines and penalties seem to be far worse for this team. I have yet to figure that out. The MTQRL formed when the founders discovered being a UMRA series sponsor did not give them the right to make racing decisions as a spectator. This seems wrong to me. It seems like they should have tried to work with the UMRA club, since they have been around for 49 yrs, to make things better instead of going out and forming another club.

[scooter99]

This is from Jeff Bruce, First I would like to thank all the crew at Lawarenceburg Speedway. Second I'd like to say that I am sorry to everyone that I could Not get my car running properly. I don't have alot of money to put a car on the track and so this is just a very expencieve hoby for me. I do not go to the track knowing my car was not running properly but after hot laps I found out different. This race has just a test sesion for us because I've only had the car for 6 weeks or so and it was at ACRA Eng. for 3 weeks and a day. ( thank u Acra the drive line was great). I guess my biggest problem is I love tq racing. I'm tired of seeing all the negitive talk on both sides. I'll be the first to say that I'd like to see Both sides Work together and maybe join together under the umra banner to make great racing for everyone.

P.S. thanks to my kids for making me look like an arcade champ.LOL

[Dave Rudisell]

Originally Posted by scooter99 This is from Jeff Bruce, First I would like to thank all the crew at Lawarenceburg Speedway. Second I'd like to say that I am sorry to everyone that I could Not get my car running properly. I don't have alot of money to put a car on the track and so this is just a very expencieve hoby for me. I do not go to the track knowing my car was not running properly but after hot laps I found out different. This race has just a test sesion for us because I've only had the car for 6 weeks or so and it was at ACRA Eng. for 3 weeks and a day. ( thank u Acra the drive line was great). I guess my biggest problem is I love tq racing. I'm tired of seeing all the negitive talk on both sides. I'll be the first to say that I'd like to see Both sides Work together and maybe join together under the umra banner to make great racing for everyone. P.S. thanks to my kids for making me look like an arcade champ.LOL

Jeff, Thanks, and thank you for bringing out your car to Lawrenceburg. I hope you get it figured out and have alot of fun this season.
Take care, Dave

[SP Motorsports]

Originally Posted by scooter99 ...I'm tired of seeing all the negitive talk on both sides. I'll be the first to say that I'd like to see Both sides Work together and maybe join together under the umra banner to make great racing for everyone.

My thoughts exactly. If both groups want to do their own thing, I can respect that too. But the negative bashing of both groups, regardless who its done by, needs to end. Nobody wins and we all look worse.