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sp6967 (Offline)
  #21 3/22/13 8:09 PM
if people want sprint and midget racing more popular they need to know the drivers.and to know the drivers they need to be more accessible.all tracks have support classes that typically run after the sprint and midgets.the drivers need to hang out after the races and socialize with fans especially the young and impressionable to help mold them into loyal fans,and maybe have a few adult beverages with the established fan.i know when i was much younger you would go to the pits after the races and talk with drivers.this was before support classes,so the pits opened to everyone after the last engine shut off.

drivers and parents with kids are both responsible for future racing success.people always cry about long nights of racing,well thats a very big problem.used to go to the track because it was a event not just a race,now as soon as the race is over people want out,they just want to get home and drag there kids with them.us fans are responsible for the future of our sport.

i have a solution of course,after the completion of the nights events the drivers should want to stay and meet and greet fans.and us so called fans go with our kids and talk with the drivers.sure it is different now because of all the classes of cars,but our sport is worth a little less sleep.

all this talk of how to help the sport is ridiculous when the fans and drivers themselves are the first problem to solve.
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bigmojo5
  #22 3/28/13 3:06 PM
For myself, I'd rather go to a race track than watch any race on television.
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Danny Burton (Offline)
  #23 3/28/13 6:54 PM
Originally Posted by bigmojo5:
For myself, I'd rather go to a race track than watch any race on television.
Same here, but we both know that the TV types don't want us. We're a small minority. Too old, too WASP, a group that by and large prefers other sports, if any.

It's great that MAV-TV is turning Sean loose on the Hoosier scene. None better.

But we are a niche sport, but that isn't necessarily a bad deal. Look at NASCAR and to a lesser extent, the Outlaws to see what happens when TV waters down a "product." Is that what we want?

King mojo, did you get my message?

http://www.hoseheads.com/dannyb.html

Quiet, numbskulls. I'm broadcasting.
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Sprinter56 (Offline)
  #24 3/28/13 8:04 PM
The only problem is usacs refusal to let jackslash tape the races for some reason just another example of USAC managing to kill what's left of their prestige and following. yes in the late ninety's usac thunder was at its peakof popularity and people with talent would invest money to go payment racing and have a shot of making it to the big leagues. The biggest problem is now nobody can get a major sponsor to follow usac because there is no exposure whatsoever for any USAC series. it boggles my mind why they think it would be bad for the sport do you have the races professionally televised on demand 4 Free on a side everybody respects including the World of Outlaws ASCs and almost every other Sprint Car Series in the land that realized it is a great deal for the series in their car owners and drivers. I'm not sure what usac buddy they are worried about missing out on chump change videoing the races that nobody sees but the biggest problem is all the people sitting around in the office getting a paycheck that don't do a damn thing to support the people paying their paychecks. they are to take a lesson from the Midwest Sprint Car Series that actually want cars 2 come race with them and do their best to pay a good person and get their cars and sponsors exposure. the 10000 the wind at Haubstadt his fall that Clayton 1 was the best race I've ever seen in my life and the video is nowhere to be found anywhere on the internet because Sean Buckley was not allowed to tape it professionally and for free for the benefit of everyone. This is the saddest most frustrating thing about racing I have ever encountered wake up enjoying the century were in right now usac. I know 1 person can't make that big of a difference but if everybody tells them what they think of their decisionmaybe some changes will be made

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The only problem is usacs refusal to let jackslash tape the races for some reason just another example of USAC managing to kill what's left of their prestige and following. yes in the late ninety's usac thunder was at its peakof popularity and people with talent would invest money to go payment racing and have a shot of making it to the big leagues. The biggest problem is now nobody can get a major sponsor to follow usac because there is no exposure whatsoever for any USAC series. it boggles my mind why they think it would be bad for the sport do you have the races professionally televised on demand 4 Free on a side everybody respects including the World of Outlaws ASCs and almost every other Sprint Car Series in the land that realized it is a great deal for the series in their car owners and drivers. I'm not sure what usac buddy they are worried about missing out on chump change videoing the races that nobody sees but the biggest problem is all the people sitting around in the office getting a paycheck that don't do a damn thing to support the people paying their paychecks. they are to take a lesson from the Midwest Sprint Car Series that actually want cars 2 come race with them and do their best to pay a good person and get their cars and sponsors exposure. the 10000 the wind at Haubstadt his fall that Clayton 1 was the best race I've ever seen in my life and the video is nowhere to be found anywhere on the internet because Sean Buckley was not allowed to tape it professionally and for free for the benefit of everyone. This is the saddest most frustrating thing about racing I have ever encountered wake up enjoying the century were in right now usac. I know 1 person can't make that big of a difference but if everybody tells them what they think of their decisionmaybe some changes will be made

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do they not understand that the Tony Stewart and Kasey Kane teams that are basically the only ones it can afford to follow the series were produced by them when they were getting the series exposure and getting people to the next level without those teams they have nothing and they're not producing any more of those right nowwith the exception mean Kyle Larson that would have made it to the big time no matter what because of his role talent that is just unbelievable

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I'm not want to just get on this message board and b**** about everything but this is a topic that deserves people to stand up to usac on i feel with Sean Buckley on his great frustration to not be able to show the masses this awesome sport because if people could see it they would love it, unfortunately nobody knows what a usac
Sprint car is any more until that changes the series will not be healthythe motto I've always went by is don't fix it if it's not broke and they tried to fix Silver Crown cars pavement sprint cars and payment midgets and they are all pretty well dead to the average car owner so sad I wish an employee that would take responsibility for their decisions what stand up like a man and answer these questions. they should take a lesson from the World of Outlaws that has a renewed sense of excitement and involvement from the fans now that they conceive all these races on Jackslash and see all the tracks that they have never seen before all over the countryI know I greatly enjoy it and appreciate what sean is doing for the sport because it is more than 1 man has ever done to promote what we do hands down

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mr nobody (Offline)
  #25 3/28/13 8:36 PM
Why can't USAC do live races on TV? Well ratings would be dismal, production costs are much more then they were 20+ years ago, and the only "racing" people think of is NASCAR.

The Thunder series was a staple in my house when it was on. We'd plan our evenings around it whether it was on Thursday or Saturday nights.
Jonr (Offline)
  #26 3/28/13 8:59 PM
Originally Posted by Sprinter56:
The only problem is usacs refusal to let jackslash tape the races for some reason just another example of USAC managing to kill what's left of their prestige and following......
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Are you sure that you know all of the details to make this statement? I know that I do not know all of the details to know if this is true. I do know that this topic comes up every so often and it is very devisive.

USAC is in the business to make money. Jacklash is in the business to make money. Are they working together to make money or is a one way street. When Jacklash shows up is he paying a royality fee to the USAC to video tape thier product? Is he paying a royality fee to the track that he is making the video of? Instead of a royality fee is he offering part of the subscription fees that he recieves? Do you know what agreement that DirtVision has with the WOO?

What is USAC's video tape strategy? Is their strategy in direct competion with Jacklash? A professionally produced video is going to keep a certain percentage of fans away from the track. There has to be a way for USAC and the tracks to tap into this revenue stream. To have someone have access to the product (USAC racing) and not have to pay for the product while they profit from it does not make sense.

I know that I am a USAC supporter and give them the benefit of the doubt. However, I get frustrated with everyone who thinks that they do nothing right and that every decision that they make is the wrong decision. There is deffinitely two sides to every conversation and when it comes to protecting the racing product, I beleive that USAC and the tracks need to be protected.
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Jerry Spencer (Offline)
  #27 3/28/13 9:17 PM
I know for a fact a couple that has lived in Kokomo all there life had never been to the Kokomo Speedway, we had a D.V.D. of slashes playing of the speedway and they never left there seat. Now they are at the speedway everytime the gates are open.
My dad spent a lot of time at the speedway until he got sick, slashes D.V.D. makes his life a little better, I for one think Sean has done more positive things for sprint car racing than some people want to admit.

I also think the people at Kokomo are smart enough to realize the advantages Sean covering there races has on there attendance. Can you imagine the lost footage had Dick Wallen been told he could not cover the racing he did??

J.M.O.

Jerry #66j
stida.com/HalfMoon
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Sprinter56 (Offline)
  #28 3/28/13 9:18 PM
yes I am pretty sure I have my facts straight because Sean has said those exact words on at least 2 of his podcast that I have listen to recently he said he has made every effort to get with usac to get these races on the net on Jackslash even coming down to say that he would provide free services to usac with nothing in return for him needed and they said they were not interested in it at all and pretty well told him to drop the subject mister Buckley can correct me if I'm wrong here but those were his exact words and I do not think he would lie about it. and no this is not be yes I don't get on here telling rumors and third party stories with any questions of the truth I am the third generation in my family to be directly involved im driving and owning usac sprint cars and right know its going to be the end of the line if they keep it up.

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racefan20 (Offline)
  #29 3/28/13 9:29 PM
As much as I like Sean and his work he IS in direct competition with USAC's relatively new usac.tv so it makes sense that they wouldnt want him to have the same thing they are charging for. Pretty simple really. Is that enough? Will USAC make $$ on their web presence, who knows but I doubt it.

John Hoover

“To whom little is not enough, nothing is enough.” Epicurus
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Sprinter56 (Offline)
  #30 3/29/13 12:40 AM
Originally Posted by Jerry Spencer:
I know for a fact a couple that has lived in Kokomo all there life had never been to the Kokomo Speedway, we had a D.V.D. of slashes playing of the speedway and they never left there seat. Now they are at the speedway everytime the gates are open.
My dad spent a lot of time at the speedway until he got sick, slashes D.V.D. makes his life a little better, I for one think Sean has done more positive things for sprint car racing than some people want to admit.

I also think the people at Kokomo are smart enough to realize the advantages Sean covering there races has on there attendance. Can you imagine the lost footage had Dick Wallen been told he could not cover the racing he did??

J.M.O.

Jerry #66j
stida.com/HalfMoon
I couldn't have said it better! I've got a couple new fans hooked from jackslash that had never been to a race just this last fall that will be filling bleachers for years to come. Its nothing against usac's product they just need to get the product displayed in an avenue of a young ambitious entreponour that will make sure we use this bullet train of media and ride it out to the masses so they can at least watch it b4 they just get a bad picture painted in their minds and never attend a single race ever. If USAC has an equivalently product full plan to offer the same thing sedans getting accomplished, that'd great, but I have yet to see a promo for usac this year or preseason hype of any kind but the race from browns town will have a worldwide audience Sunday morning at their fingertips to showcase sprint car racing as it should be... hmmmmmmmmmmm

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