Thats why discussion is great, I never thought about the sand eating up chains and sprockets. Everybodys situation is different, if I was to run more the 5 or 6 shows a year I'd be surprised. Even the last couple years I raced speedway I was selective in what races I rode. If I were to race alot i guess I'd have to have a big block mod, thats what the draw here is. For me though a lightning sprint is perfect, a real racecar that I can push a button to start, roll it around by myself, ect. it makes being a one man gang easier.

As you've already been informed, the D1 midgets are the exact same thing as a national midget. Its just a marketing gimmik that isn't even that clever.
I say allow the Focus Kenton, Eccotech cars to run. They probably wont win, but the more cars in the pits, espically for an annaugral event the better. And as the promotor Im sure you'd like to see the back gate be fatter...
Also, I know alot of guys on here are proud of their minis, but let's face it, under race conditions a midget is going to win. Qualifying times for a mini might be compairable or even faster, but were talking racing. The tourque of a midget motor allows it to pass cars, and run different lines that just isn't possible in a mini. Minis rely heavely on momentum for them to run quick. If you get crossed up in a mini, its going to take twice as long to get going. Not to mention, that if its a heavy track, the extra 200 horsepower of a midget is a giant advantage. Look at the results from the "midget" event at Logansport a few weeks ago. The midgets took the top 3 spots.
Mini-sprints are very cool and alot of fun. I see no point though of combining them with full midgets.
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Yep a full on midget is what we always considered maybe the best of all race cars. When I was younger the midgets would smoke around the 5/8 mile flemington track. ardc I think they were. Like I said in a previous post, midgets are high dollar cars, always have been always will be. The problem if you let the midgets run is where and how do you draw the line ? If I'm lucky enuff to get down there it would suck getting beat by cars with twice the HP. I think by definition a Lightning Sprint should be self starting.

I too used to watch the ARDC midgets at Flemington when I was younger. I now live in the midwest, but its always cool to talk to a fellow east coaster.
If you watched the midgets at Flemington you probably saw my dads car win alot of races there. They were always in victory lane.
Around what years did you go there?
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From around 1965 to 1978. I know one thing if your dad had a winning car and driver at Flemington, they were bad@##. At first we didnt like the midgets and sprints, we thought it was a pain in the butt to sit thru them all pushing off. Back in the 60's and early 70's the Big Block modifieds were king. upwards of a 1000 hp and by the early 70's there were cars that weight only a few hundred pounds more then a sprinter. It got crazy right before the super light cars were ruled off the track, The track had two knicknames, Modified Country USA and Flip City, both it lived up to. You would have to have large cahona's to win there. I wonder, which track in Indiana most reminds you of flemington ? Thats where I'd like to be every sat. night.

QUICK CHANGE rear axles will be allowed for 2012 LIGHTNING SPRINT WINTERNATIONALS
MUST BE SELF STARTING, HAVE A CLUTCH AND DRIVE OFF-PUSH STARTING NOT BE ALLOWED NOR WILL STARTING IN GEAR

Lets get this straight. Focus midget not legal, Echotec midget not legal even if it could take off by bumping its starter, full midget not legal. Kenyon midgets legal. What if I come up with a full midget with a tilton clutch and starter on it, and show up to race. Would that be legal? Why or why not? I don't much get into the spirit of things. We need a few more factors in our rules. Or somebody will say "You didn't say you couldn't". By the way starters were a mess in midgets.

Hey Dad good questions....any midget is legal as long as the meet the rules...weight...self starting....clutch...no more then 1205cc and no bump starting ...must be running and able to drive off....the reason for the quick change rule it opens op more possibilities to get more cars like buying a used midget...adding more cockpit space...getting away from chain drives...all pluses....have spoken to a couple of other series that is going to follow suit in 2012....hope I answered you question...if not feel free to call...Wayne Davis (904) 803-3255 thanks

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This is way we will be so unique.... motorcycle engines have all that internal...clutch and tranmission

We were racing 600 uprights at the 16th street speedway in Indy several years ago with Bill May's Buckey mini sprints.. They had 5 or 6 Kenyon cars there that wanted to race with us. After hot laps they all loaded up and went home. You are underestimating what that ujoint,ring and pinion and spur gears are going to do to your horsepower. That might also be why all the racers down in Australia are trying to get their hands on our cars. To make rear ends work you are going to need more motor.

And with that why not allow a 1300 hybusa engine with QC only. if it equals out....anyway we can make things competitive and allow expandiblity

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E bay 1,795.00 This is the engine kit from a 2005 GSXR 1300 (187hp @ 9500 rpm). Bike has 6369 miles. Complete engine kit....

many from 1800.00 to 2500.00...still cheaper than a ecotec or focus