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ThrottleHead (Offline)
  #21 2/22/08 6:24 PM
Originally Posted by RichC:
From the IndyCar website -



Being a somewhat skeptical person when it comes to corporate communications, it kind of looks to me like TG sat down to dinner last night after he signed the deal he wanted. Everything that has happened since has been KK & GF holding out trying their best to end up with the minimum amount of stick snapped off in their behinds. They've been negotiating at a disadvantage for some time now.

I bet that meal tasted good.
It was probably White Castles :rolling
Gaines #1 Fan
  #22 2/22/08 6:56 PM
Does anybody really care,any more? Been to 40 Indys,12 other indy car races,13 IRL I'm DONE!!!! TONY lied to everyone.:thumbsdown: :moon:
Larryoracing (Offline)
  #23 2/22/08 7:06 PM
Looks like your a true to blue Indy Racing fan.

Hope you enjoy the races in the future.

The races on radio aren't bad either.

I'm looking forward to the Indy 500.

Larry "O":applaud:
Charles Nungester (Offline)
  #24 2/22/08 7:20 PM
Originally Posted by Gaines #1 Fan:
Does anybody really care,any more? Been to 40 Indys,12 other indy car races,13 IRL I'm DONE!!!! TONY lied to everyone.:thumbsdown: :moon:
And the conspiracy theorys abound. Hows it Tony's fault teams ask for money and the only expansions they can make are road coarses? maybe because both series were so diluted, THEY HAD TOO?

Charles Nungester
Joe Kidd
  #25 2/22/08 7:27 PM
Who cares, they are all going to NASCAR anyways. Nothing against NASCAR though. They do a helluva job.
mikew (Offline)
  #26 2/22/08 8:24 PM
With lawsuits pending against them and teams having to take extraordinary measures to get their points fund money from last season, CCWS was going out of business anyway. Their bargaining position rested solely on Long Beach. But even then, their position was compromised because they had to rely on the IRL to have a race there (sounds like in 2009) so they would not be sued by the city for breach of contract.

The IRL was in much better shape. With the 500 printing money every year, Honda engines, a television package, etc... Even with all of that, Honda has stated they might lose interest if no other engine manufacturer joined. The TV contract is up at the end of this year or the next... While the IRL was in a much stronger bargaining position, they could not ignore the potential of a merger, especially with the confirmed car count hovering around 16 cars for this upcoming season.

It is a shame that this couldn't be a merger of two strong open wheel racing series. Instead, the story will be spun by the nascar nation press that: "CCWS last act before filing bankruptcy was to join the IRL. The IRL desprately needed the CCWS teams to avoid low car counts for this season as it struggles to remain relevant."

What a shame

However, as a fan, I am excited about the new teams and am hopeful that we get less new street circuits and more new road circuits.
speedy1
  #27 2/23/08 4:15 PM
Originally Posted by Joe Kidd:
Who cares, they are all going to NASCAR anyways. Nothing against NASCAR though. They do a helluva job.
anything is better then napcar
rstar00
  #28 2/23/08 5:40 PM
openwheelKT it looks like I was right even after you slammed me. My information is always on the money. Welcome back CCWS.
openwheelKT (Offline)
  #29 2/24/08 9:11 AM
Originally Posted by rstar00:
openwheelKT it looks like I was right even after you slammed me. My information is always on the money. Welcome back CCWS.
If this happened....

"The big announcement will be at a noon press conference on Friday 2-22-2008 of the merger, the wait is over."

I must have missed. I think I'd put the, "my information is always on the money", bullet back in your holster. You might want to save that for another time. If posting information that there was no news conference is slamming you, then sorry I guess. :rolleyes:
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