People wondered why Silver Crown races weren't scheduled on a lot of short tracks. This is exactly why. Most places can't afford a decent purse. If you want the races, you have to take what you can get. If you don't, let your car sit in the garage.

Originally Posted by apexonephoto A week before the event and they are still making changes? With Illiana and Oswego leaving a bad taste in many people's mouths I'm just hoping it's not too little too late. Spending a few days in the Northeast and at WoO and Dirt shows, I would say there is a whole of differences in these series.

A complaint about a RAISE in the purse. I've seen it all now, folks.

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Originally Posted by USAC Fan People wondered why Silver Crown races weren't scheduled on a lot of short tracks. This is exactly why. Most places can't afford a decent purse. If you want the races, you have to take what you can get. If you don't, let your car sit in the garage. A complaint about a RAISE in the purse. I've seen it all now, folks.

No complaints on the purse at all. It's the "enhancements" that sometimes say more than anything. Some consistency and firmness can go a long way in saying "we are dedicated to the owners".

Correct me if I'm wrong, did the purse start low and go higher, or did it start somewhere, drop and now raise again?

[chop]

Please remember that berlin is a late model track. Look at the payout for a late model race
http://www.kalamazoospeedway.com/new...rom=&ucat=4&el race at Kalamazoo speedway


How many sprint cars did usac bring to the race at Kazoo this year? How many crown cars will show up for the Berlin race?
I was at the last sliver crown race at Berlin (cant' remember the name of it, was the year the other guys tried running the cars) Had a good crowd. Alot showed up to see Newman race.
A week away and not much tv or newspaper ads for it here in Grand Rapids.

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Usac is the promotor????????? With no promoter!!!!!!!!! Johnny benson is getting $2 a ticket from usac! They will lose the ass how long can they keep this up?

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Originally Posted by chop Please remember that berlin is a late model track. Look at the payout for a late model race http://www.kalamazoospeedway.com/new...rom=&ucat=4&el race at Kalamazoo speedway How many sprint cars did usac bring to the race at Kazoo this year? How many crown cars will show up for the Berlin race? I was at the last sliver crown race at Berlin (cant' remember the name of it, was the year the other guys tried running the cars) Had a good crowd. Alot showed up to see Newman race. A week away and not much tv or newspaper ads for it here in Grand Rapids.

Sign of the times, 2006 Klash paid $25,000 and 2007 Klash paid $30,157. Is it now a "miniseries", with the final paying $10,000 to win? Some points to ponder would be if I were a race fan who lived between K'zoo and Berlin during this week of racing (keep in mind I'm not in the know, of racetrack ******** in Western Michigan), I'm not going to any of them:

A. Choose a series that rarely runs at Berlin, has no entry list and just cancelled their last scheduled race.

B. Choose a series of regionally strong/native Outlaw Super late models, where I may see a full field of cars (2007 race had 56 cars show up) with several heats and a B-main.

C. Waste my money on tickets to NASCAR MIS on the 14-15th.

D. Go to the ARCA race at Berlin.

E. Convince some people who can drive an hour to any dirt track in Indiana to watch sprints, that they should drive up to Michigan to watch a Silver Crown race on pavement.

I live in the Ontario, the Canadian equivalent of Michigan from an economic standpoint, and I know many people couldn't afford more then one special event race in the next few weeks. I have to work and can't drive the 3-4 hours all week, I hope any of you Michigan race fans can make the show.

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Originally Posted by chop Please remember that berlin is a late model track. Look at the payout for a late model race http://www.kalamazoospeedway.com/new...rom=&ucat=4&el race at Kalamazoo speedway How many sprint cars did usac bring to the race at Kazoo this year? How many crown cars will show up for the Berlin race? I was at the last sliver crown race at Berlin (cant' remember the name of it, was the year the other guys tried running the cars) Had a good crowd. Alot showed up to see Newman race. A week away and not much tv or newspaper ads for it here in Grand Rapids.

Chop, if by the other guys running the Berlin race you are talking about the PRA series? That series was started by Jason Mc Cord and I must admit I forget the other Jason's last name. Both Jason's have been working for USAC for the last several years after Kevin Miller took over. They never did secure a huge number of races for the PRA series, I have found myself wondreing the past several weeks what part they played in not securing a promoter for the Oswego race.

USACRACING2010, instead of teasing us about how great the 2011 schedule is for Silver Crown, why don't you share with the fans what is in the works?

Kudos to whoever got the purse back up to $8000 to win.

Chop, I have stated my feelings about USAC's lack of advertising or promoting for years.

So let me try a new approach, from my fan viewpoint it appears USAC is struggling to find people to promote there races, struggling to get car owners with enough of their own cash or sponsorship money to compete and fewer and fewer fans showing up even at Indiana events. Oh wait many of you will say the last statement about the fans only applies to USAC pavement racing and the dirt racing is healthy; Sprint Week Shows sure pack the house. I will give you that!

As long as USAC has the attitude there fans will find them, they don't have to advertise they will continue to spiral downward in my opinion. That long time fan base is aging USAC and dying off with no effort on your part to attract new fans from what I am seeing.

Patti

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USACRACING2010, instead of teasing us about how great the 2011 schedule is for Silver Crown, why don't you share with the fans what is in the works?



usac should let the car owners know about there"schedule" for next year ,might help them with sponsorship money$$$$$$$$

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Originally Posted by USAC Fan People wondered why Silver Crown races weren't scheduled on a lot of short tracks. This is exactly why. Most places can't afford a decent purse. If you want the races, you have to take what you can get. If you don't, let your car sit in the garage.

Like Geoff, I wish we had a (pavement) car, and could currently afford to run it. We would support this race in a heartbeat! Berlin has not only a very racy facility, but rabid fans of all types of racing too!!!

JMO, the series has seen enough humility, and should be willing to race at some of the shorter tracks. With that said, the bigger dollars won't be there, but more exposure might help that down the road. Running 5 dirt races a year doesn't exactly keep the series on anyone's front page. Yet with so many 1/2 miles out there, there should be at least one dirt race a month... Again, just my opinion. The shows on the Terre Haute 1/2 are usually fabulous!! Why wouldn't that work at say, Williams Grove? The purses may not be stellar, but would obviously pay more than a Sprint Car show, and would help the keep the series as a marquis type of event. Then, by the time the cars came to Springfield, there might be a bit more buzz about the series, instead of the cars sitting idle for months... In turn, more butts maybe in the seats at Springfield... And then everyone can scream at Sargeant that "WE WANT MORE $$$"!!! :2:

Anyways. I could go on, but just thought I would throw that out there... God I miss you guys!

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Not sure if this is just by chance or what. Both time usac has run this year at
Berlin, it is the week of the nascar race at mis. Would this be that they think the local Berlin late model fans are gone to the nascar race. So they are looking to fill the stands with open wheel fan? Are they thinking that a large group of fans will drive up from Indy? Maybe get a nascar driver to show up and bring fans to the track? Could it be they think all the fans have tons of cash and take the whole week off for the nascar race?
I'm a open wheel, dirt, no wing fan. Not alot of that in Michigan. So try to show up when it is near. It would be like you guys in Indy only liking pavement late model racing.
My kid races karts, so do not get to many "real races" in the summer. Just would like to see good ones when I do get to see one.

Originally Posted by usac99 usacracing2010, instead of teasing us about how great the 2011 schedule is for silver crown, why don't you share with the fans what is in the works? Usac should let the car owners know about there"schedule" for next year ,might help them with sponsorship money$$$$$$$$

usacracing 2010 didnt make thta comment. Chris mattlin did and i'm betting it was a typo and he wouldn't know anything about the new schedules.