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Phylo82 (Offline)
  #21 11/10/09 7:38 PM
With the MMSA going gas only in 2011 I don't see many of those guys buying up alcohol conversion systems.

We were considering a change to alcohol but with the new AMSA weight rules and MMSA going gas only I think we'll stick with what we have.

Phil Heil
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Owner, Crew Chief, Pit Crew, Hauler, Check Writer, Grunt
Jrp4554 (Offline)
  #22 11/10/09 8:09 PM
Jerry,

I love the new rules. You're never going to make everyone 100 % happy but I think the changes you've made are definitely trying to cut expenses and keep people on a level playing field.
STUMPS88 (Offline)
  #23 11/10/09 8:28 PM
Agreed again 970 is alittle off for running Alki... Heck the 07 gsxr on gas pull better than my 06 on alki... If ya wanna make it cheap maybe eliminate all gas adjustable shocks to!?...Hope you AMSA is getting cash from hoosier or american racer to... Because u guys will be buying a boatload of new right rears im guessing...
Harry Jones 14
  #24 11/10/09 8:54 PM
amsa isn't getting any money from either tire company, that is why JT said you could buy your tires off of either co. if he was getting money, you could only buy from that one Co. that he got the money from and couldn't buy from the other co. wish you cry babys would do your home work before you fly off the mouth. Did you even ask that question? No just blowing in the wind. Half of you guys don't even know what you are talking about. the higher weight is to stop you from building that big motor. and the little guy who can't spend that kind of money will have a chance to race a fair race and not be left in the dirt by that big build motor. So if you think that is to much weight, don't build your motor so big. go for the less weight lets make it even for all. mmsa isn't doing much anything different this year. So you can see who is looking out for his members with this weight and tire rule.
mini27 (Offline)
  #25 11/10/09 9:05 PM
its stock just on alky 70 ib just 4 that WOW
Jrp4554 (Offline)
  #26 11/10/09 9:11 PM
Why not just switch to gas then?
mini27 (Offline)
  #27 11/10/09 9:30 PM
Originally Posted by Jrp4554:
Why not just switch to gas then?
its a r1 its not that easy. i didnt want to switch 2 alky but had to so i could keep my motor cool. i had a bigger rad custom made didnt work, boby work/air ducks didnt work tryed 3 differnt types of coolent didnt work.
STUMPS88 (Offline)
  #28 11/10/09 10:11 PM
Harry... Seems like you should do your home work and shut your mouth... 1 ...i race with another mini sprint group myself...2 ...i have little cash and run a stock motor... 3... Plane and simple alki has very little advantage is what people are getting at on here and 970 is a rediculas weight over a 900lbs on gas!...ADVANTAGE THE SMALL GUY AND YOUNG GUN KIDS...

Totally understandable to control engine building...just plain ELIMINATE ANYTHING over a 1000cc to make it easy...

This type of **** kills a class...
garry47 (Offline)
  #29 11/10/09 10:22 PM
finally someone makes a good point. if you want to stop the big motors put weight rules on them not people stock on alky
Smitty (Offline)
  #30 11/10/09 10:36 PM
Originally Posted by Harry Jones 14:
amsa isn't getting any money from either tire company, that is why JT said you could buy your tires off of either co. if he was getting money, you could only buy from that one Co. that he got the money from and couldn't buy from the other co. wish you cry babys would do your home work before you fly off the mouth. Did you even ask that question? No just blowing in the wind. Half of you guys don't even know what you are talking about. the higher weight is to stop you from building that big motor. and the little guy who can't spend that kind of money will have a chance to race a fair race and not be left in the dirt by that big build motor. So if you think that is to much weight, don't build your motor so big. go for the less weight lets make it even for all. mmsa isn't doing much anything different this year. So you can see who is looking out for his members with this weight and tire rule.
If weight evens out the motors then why did jt eliminate the ZX12? Why didn't he just make it weigh more than 1040 lbs or whatever. There are several Henchcraft cars running ZX12 motors, did jt just want to eliminate those cars?
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