[terrehautian]

I have drilled/slotted rotors and while they are warped now (need to get them serviced), but I have had them on my car since I bought it in 2004.

[Charles Nungester]

If you ever get your tires rotated or wheels removed for any reason. Make sure the mechanic uses a Torque Wrench to manufacturer specs when replacing the wheels. If you do it yourself, Your taking chances. Todays Rotors are Lightweight pieces of crap.

Chuck

[Jerry Shaw]

To me, the 3800 V6 is the best passenger car motor ever made. As long as you change the oil every 3,000 miles, it's a power plant that is bulletproof. I'm on my second 200,000 mile vehicle in a row. The first was an 1986 Bonneville that I gave away with 265,000 mile on it. Currently, my 2003 Regal has 206,000 miles on it. It runs just like it it did @ 39,000 miles and I have no intention of getting rid of it any time soon.

I did find out this week, though, that you should replace the catalytic converter every 200K miles or so.

Jerry

[bobO]

i have alway,s had chevy,s or something from the GM line their problem is the same as the orther,s union-union- union i,m all for workers right,s & fair pay BUT overpaying for not enough work being done has never been a money maker... i own a non union trucking company most of my worker,s have been with me a long time i treat them fair -- they treat me fair - we respect each other i provide them with good sound truck,s & trailer,s health-dental-eye ins. pay % of each load the more you run -the more you make BUT WORKING IS THE WHOLE KEY HERE !! being from michigan i,ve spent a good deal of time in all the car factory,s -- working -- moreless working hard has never been high on their list.. !! IMO they were a great thing & needed when they all got started but anymore they protect overpaid-- underworking crybaby,s at one point in time they helped make our country strong -- now they help make this country weak soft i,m lucky i,ve got great HELP and i know it and do my best to treat them as such in return WE MAKE MONEY FOR EACH OTHER!! i stay here in indy and work on race car,s they do their thing and make a good living and i keep up on thing,s from my laptop here ... A HONEST DAY,S WORK for AN HONEST DAY,S PAY is one thing that will never change!!!!!! and if you dont belive me ask some of the cat- people in peoria,il they said the same thing the car people in michigan said THEY WILL NEVER PULL OUT THEY NEED US!!! EMPTY FACTORY,S PAY NOBODY,S BILL,S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Charles Nungester]

Originally Posted by Jerry Shaw To me, the 3800 V6 is the best passenger car motor ever made. As long as you change the oil every 3,000 miles, it's a power plant that is bulletproof. I'm on my second 200,000 mile vehicle in a row. The first was an 1986 Bonneville that I gave away with 265,000 mile on it. Currently, my 2003 Regal has 206,000 miles on it. It runs just like it it did @ 39,000 miles and I have no intention of getting rid of it any time soon. I did find out this week, though, that you should replace the catalytic converter every 200K miles or so. Jerry

IM on my third I will note that the motor never really came into its own until fuel injection. My uncle had a few early 80s V6s that were crap.

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Originally Posted by bobO i have alway,s had chevy,s or something from the GM line their problem is the same as the orther,s union-union- union i,m all for workers right,s & fair pay BUT overpaying for not enough work being done has never been a money maker... i own a non union trucking company most of my worker,s have been with me a long time i treat them fair -- they treat me fair - we respect each other i provide them with good sound truck,s & trailer,s health-dental-eye ins. pay % of each load the more you run -the more you make BUT WORKING IS THE WHOLE KEY HERE !! being from michigan i,ve spent a good deal of time in all the car factory,s -- working -- moreless working hard has never been high on their list.. !! IMO they were a great thing & needed when they all got started but anymore they protect overpaid-- underworking crybaby,s at one point in time they helped make our country strong -- now they help make this country weak soft i,m lucky i,ve got great HELP and i know it and do my best to treat them as such in return WE MAKE MONEY FOR EACH OTHER!! i stay here in indy and work on race car,s they do their thing and make a good living and i keep up on thing,s from my laptop here ... A HONEST DAY,S WORK for AN HONEST DAY,S PAY is one thing that will never change!!!!!! and if you dont belive me ask some of the cat- people in peoria,il they said the same thing the car people in michigan said THEY WILL NEVER PULL OUT THEY NEED US!!! EMPTY FACTORY,S PAY NOBODY,S BILL,S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seems everyone blames the Union for getting what the company AGREED TO GIVE! Then not covering the cost of doing it.

Won't matter now, The taxpayer is stuck with another 40 billion (When Bankruptcy should have been the first option) and no job is safe.

[Seadog]

Originally Posted by Mud Packer Seadog, I experienced a similar problem on a 2000 Pontiac. Replaced rotars and the same thing happened. Replaced them again, same story. I finally found that you need to "upgrade" to a different rotar. It is made for police cars and they cost a little more but it has solved my problem. Hope this helps.

Thank you. I was perusing some automotive forums and read that from some people that said non-OEM rotors are the fix for this pain in the a$$ problem. My car still stops OK, but the whole care shakes. The weird part is that it is OK when I go to work in the morning in stop and go traffic for the first mile. Then when the brakes heat up is when it starts shakin' and quakin'. I'm thinking it could maybe be a stuck caliper piston that may add to the problem.

This is the first car I've ever had with 4 wheel disc brakes and I can say that it has done nothing to endear me to this set up.

Thanks again.

[Z-man]

Originally Posted by Seadog The TRUTH about my 2004 Impala with 53,000 miles. It has been in the shop four times in the last nine months for defective parts. My extended warranty that I PURCHASED covered it. GM wouldn't have touched it and issued no recalls for the defective parts. And now I have brake rotors that are terribly warped and the car shudders when I hit the brakes and neither the extended warranty nor GM will cover it. The DEALER said this is a common problem and GM knows since 2000 about it and has done nothing. I really like the car - if I can keep it out of the shop. I always buy American and often Chevy. But this car has left a bad taste in my mouth and GM doesn't care. I'm not saying this is the case with all GM owners. But I read and I hear that I am not alone with these issues.

Gregg
Are you the blue impala driving like an old man riding with his foot on the brake all over the east side of town, quit two footing it. I think this warped rotor issue is common among a lot of american cars. Shakes so bad going down 32 or beechmont hills it'll knock your dentures loose

[Seadog]

Originally Posted by Z-man Gregg Are you the blue impala driving like an old man riding with his foot on the brake all over the east side of town, quit two footing it. I think this warped rotor issue is common among a lot of american cars. Shakes so bad going down 32 or beechmont hills it'll knock your dentures loose

Mine's not blue.

And us old fogies refer to it as "the heel and toe method" as in sports car racing as opposed to "two footing it". And when I go down the 32 hill, I kick it into neutral and let 'er coast all the way down. It usually gets me clean on down to Burger's farm before I have to drop it in drive. Saves gas.

The rotor deal - I had the car six or seven months and never had a rotor problem (had lots of other problems) and then a few weeks ago this suddenly cropped up.

[dave]

All you have to say is VEGA! That disaster cost them any integraty.

[TQ29m]

Anything that was made of steel, in those years, didn't last long, before the termites dissolved them, we musta been trying to use our own steel! Vega wasn't the only one plagued with problems, during those years, I owned several GM's, including the Vega, and I had a lot of them, had a local mechanic, that had developed a method of aligning the front end, that made them a good car, but add one of the aluminum V8's of that era, and you had a good street machine, I built several. Bob