IndianaOpenWheel.com Sprint Car & Midget Racing Forum





Register! Forgot Password?
Post Reply
IndyBound (Offline)
  #21 2/20/09 4:14 PM
Originally Posted by wbr:
Thanks Patti, and yes please share the photos with us. We will definately be in Richmond. Or the team will be, my new job and mother nature dictates where in the USA I am at any given time and for how long.

Manzy only had 18 SC cars last year, so 15 doesn't mean the sky is falling, not yet.

I am fairly happy with Mr. Miller's results thus far at USAC. If we all would give him the same reasonable doubt we give the President of our Country, which is 4 years to get things going in the right direction before his next job evauluation or ********, I think he will be able to make USAC profitable. Dropping the SC series would be a disaster for USAC, the teams and the fans.

I wish the boys could campaign a dirt car on the Silver Crown and Sprint series, but we'll all be happy and most thankful to our sponsors for allowing us to run the races we can. (Our glass is half full or better, most of the time.)

I feel almost ill for Mr. Nolin and his team, a stolen car is horrible. I am adding a post to the stolen post also.

Good luck to all the competitors at Manzanita, especially Brian and Kody in the SC and Hunter in the Sprints. :thumb
Your welcome Mark, one of the 6R drivers is also in a midget, I believe it is Kody.
Best of Luck to all, let the 2009 racing season begin!

Patti
6157 (Offline)
  #22 2/20/09 4:50 PM
Originally Posted by Sprint63122:
If they have to cut a division lose the midgets and get the dirt silver crown cars on the half-miles and go with that.The best division they have right now is the dirt sprint cars but again this year after sprint week not much going on between there and four crown.
So you want to cut a division that regularly gets 30+ cars and has tracks running for a date for a division that is lucky to draw 30 on dirt (We won't even talk about pavement) and race that division on tracks where promoters won't even pay the current purse?

Will you come run my business?
Sprint63122 (Offline)
  #23 2/20/09 7:01 PM
Originally Posted by 6157:
So you want to cut a division that regularly gets 30+ cars and has tracks running for a date for a division that is lucky to draw 30 on dirt (We won't even talk about pavement) and race that division on tracks where promoters won't even pay the current purse?

Will you come run my business?

What I was using has a example was they had less midgets at Terre Haute than silver crown cars.Plus there are enough midget sanctioning bodies around so they will have some where to race.The payout to win midgets is not that great at all and the expense to run national is about the same for both cars.I would just like to see them try the silver crown on dirt more and on the half-miles makes for better racing and the payout is a lot better, it does not hurt anyone at all to suggest something, some will like it and some will not.
sprntr (Offline)
  #24 2/20/09 7:33 PM
If they need to dump a division or two, they should stop trying to resuscitate the Gold Crowns & leave the QMA to run the 1/4's.
racephoto1 (Offline)
  #25 2/20/09 7:47 PM
Well , I'll jump into this with both feet. Up until the economic collapse taking place , if you wanted to move up into the hi paying jobs(Nascrap), you had to run Champ cars.

A few examples are; Tony Stewart, JJ Yeley, Jeff Gordon,and Justin Allgaier to name a few. I guess they really don't mean a thing when you drive them.

As for no local support , you must be a guy who writes on this site, and talks racing , but doesn't really go. Duquoin is in the middle of nowhere, and I mean nowhere and the fans show up ,9000. Up until the rainouts the Hoosier 100 was resurgent. Don't even ask about Terre Haute, good luck finding a seat.

The big cars are a tradition and have a real oppurtunity to grow more, they just need the promotion. It is like anything else. It sure doesn't need axed.
dirtywhiteboy
  #26 2/20/09 7:50 PM
Originally Posted by sc96:
Makes you wonder what is going to happen to the dirt SC deal it does not look good. I did hear the same rummer that SC cars dirt and Pavement were going to be on the chopping block. What worries me is it comes from a very good source.
This can be rightfully laid at the feet of USAC for killing off the Silver Crown series. The series was doing fine with great car counts, great fan attendance and great racing back before they forced those GOD AWFUL new cars down everyone's throat and pissed off the core car owners. This same thing is exactly what happened with Indycars and their second split back in 1996. Things went to being the IRL and CART then CCWS (post 2003) and look at what Indycaris now: a freakin JOKE. USAC has done the same.

Anyone who wants to defend their beloved USAC against this go right ahead. Just remind me what color Koolaid you are drinking so I can avoid it.
sc96 (Offline)
  #27 2/20/09 9:24 PM
The core owners were fading off very quickly be for the new gen cars came about. The new gen cars had nothing to do with the fading car counts at dirt shows. When the new gen cars ran Phoenix there were 20 cars now we blame the fact that there are 15 dirt cars at Manzy on the new gen cars YOU MUST BE KIDDING. The main reason the SC cars are dropping off is because USAC cannot book enough race dates to justify the cost of building a car. And there are not enough new owners coming in to offset the ones who are retiring.
dirtywhiteboy
  #28 2/20/09 9:40 PM
Originally Posted by sc96:
The core owners were fading off very quickly be for the new gen cars came about. The new gen cars had nothing to do with the fading car counts at dirt shows. When the new gen cars ran Phoenix there were 20 cars now we blame the fact that there are 15 dirt cars at Manzy on the new gen cars YOU MUST BE KIDDING. The main reason the SC cars are dropping off is because USAC cannot book enough race dates to justify the cost of building a car. And there are not enough new owners coming in to offset the ones who are retiring.
LOL. Springfield always had more than enough cars to do qualifying and a have a consi. Enter the New Generation cars and the series splitup with the new cars being the pavement and the old pavement cars going to the PRA. It became unaffordable to try to have three chassis to run: A New Generation, a traditional pavement and a dirt car. What was the number of cars at Springfield this year? 28 I believe.

Once agian the USACistas would have you believe the Silver Crown series was going **** up long before USAC screwed the series up.

USAC can book shows. LIke as has been stated here before, how many large 3/8's, 1/2, and 3/4 mile tracks are there that the cars can go to? Kind of odd the PRA could find tracks that wanted to bring them in and run a show.

I agree with sprntr. Dump the Gold Crown cars once and for all. It failed, PERIOD. Those who bought into it, I am sorry but much like the Bernie Madoff case you got sold a bill of goods that was junk and taken for a lot of money but that's what happens when an idea is made to sound to good to be true and the New Generation/Gold Crown cars seires is that.
sc96 (Offline)
  #29 2/20/09 9:57 PM
Well the same guys who ran PRA are now running the SC div at USAC so why are they not booking more race dates? The SC div needs more race dates dirt and pavement the goldcrown is a whole different story. With out more race dates the whole SC div will be in trouble.
dirtywhiteboy
  #30 2/20/09 10:22 PM
Originally Posted by sc96:
Well the same guys who ran PRA are now running the SC div at USAC so why are they not booking more race dates? The SC div needs more race dates dirt and pavement the goldcrown is a whole different story. With out more race dates the whole SC div will be in trouble.

Because I don't work for USAC (Praise be Jesus) I am going to surmise that USAC sanctioning fee is a HUGE reason that USAC doesn't go to the tracks PRA was at. No, the Gold Crown cars are a part of the problem that is destroying the Silver Crown series. Those stupid crapwagons that were forced down the owners and fans throats left a very bitter taste in their mouths because of it.

Even though I don't have the PM's Spridge sent me I can not directly post them but he made a very arrogant statement that certain tracks aren't good enough for USAC. That may be the problem. USAC may have such an inflated ego and think their sh*t doesn't stink, they may turn their noses up at tracks that would love to have the Siler Crown series.

Spridge's statement was made in a conversation we had about why USAC totally ignores 90% of Illinois tracks. If USAC really does feel that way then I guess being an Illinois citizen my money isn't good enough for USAC either.
Post Reply