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sc96 (Offline)
  #21 6/29/08 10:48 PM
D.O has a good point,at least they had him on national t.v, most people who are not close to the sport have no Idea about the cost to run a race team,Most think we are all loaded and have more money than we know what to do with.Otherwise how could we afford to do what we do.
Kirk Spridgeon (Offline)
  #22 6/29/08 10:57 PM
David-
I got out of it what I expected to get out of it. As D.O. stated, this interview was more for the "non-USAC" crowd than the staunch supporters. Honestly, if anybody wants any questions answered, look him up at the track or, gasp, call into the USAC Radio Show when he's on there. I have gone right at him with some concerns of mine, and I will continue to do so....

Miller has admitted that he is not as savvy on the techincal side. Quite honestly, the problems have escalated under a regime that was not his, and he has a fairly pinpoint plan on what problems they are trying to fix. They have a timeline, and I'm interested to see what they can do to CONTROL costs. I do not feel that times are nearly as grim as some indicate - I see no reason why Don Moore's midget would not be competitive during Indiana Midget Week, which is a good thing.

It is not USAC's job to get drivers to the IRL or NASCAR. They need to be worried about getting drivers into USAC and making them happy to be there....everything else takes care of itself!

And finally - he gave a pretty straight-forward answer as to what will be happening with the New Generation cars. It was a terrible idea to begin with, and most did or should have been able to see that. With that, I think they are doing all that they can with the new cars. No one wants them - and it's going to take some serious ideas to figure out where to get races and how to pay them!

That's all I've got...still have some serious concerns about things, but I've had some encouraging talks and I try to be optimistic about what's coming....
sc96 (Offline)
  #23 6/29/08 11:20 PM
For sale 2 $55,000.00 boat ankers,could also be used for a putput gulf course obstacle.
Ovalmeister (Offline)
  #24 6/29/08 11:41 PM
Originally Posted by Kirk Spridgeon:
David-
I got out of it what I expected to get out of it. As D.O. stated, this interview was more for the "non-USAC" crowd than the staunch supporters. Honestly, if anybody wants any questions answered, look him up at the track or, gasp, call into the USAC Radio Show when he's on there. I have gone right at him with some concerns of mine, and I will continue to do so....

Miller has admitted that he is not as savvy on the techincal side. Quite honestly, the problems have escalated under a regime that was not his, and he has a fairly pinpoint plan on what problems they are trying to fix. They have a timeline, and I'm interested to see what they can do to CONTROL costs. I do not feel that times are nearly as grim as some indicate - I see no reason why Don Moore's midget would not be competitive during Indiana Midget Week, which is a good thing.

It is not USAC's job to get drivers to the IRL or NASCAR. They need to be worried about getting drivers into USAC and making them happy to be there....everything else takes care of itself!

And finally - he gave a pretty straight-forward answer as to what will be happening with the New Generation cars. It was a terrible idea to begin with, and most did or should have been able to see that. With that, I think they are doing all that they can with the new cars. No one wants them - and it's going to take some serious ideas to figure out where to get races and how to pay them!

That's all I've got...still have some serious concerns about things, but I've had some encouraging talks and I try to be optimistic about what's coming....

If I'm a "non-USAC" fan I'm going to the fridge for a beer during the interview. Like I do when they show world rally stuff. Point being...maybe Kevin SHOULD address the "staunch USAC supporter".

I'm interested to see what they do to control costs also. Thought maybe he would give some insight...guess not.

Love to hear Don's opinion of the direction of costs....

It isn't USAC's job to get drivers to the IRL....but a person who had some vision would realize....the local INDIANA sprint track stands would be much fuller if their sprint hero's were heading to the INDY 500. Just sayin.

Straight forward answer about the new gen silver crown cars? Really? 2010? Really? OK, I'll check back in 2010 with Mr. Miller....if he's still around. :headbang

What's the plan for the USAC/CRA division? I hear nothing but ******** from my pals out there. What about the age issue? A guy can run Winchester but not Richmond? My point of all this, is this.....I could go on and on and on with all the issues we fans want to know about. Kevin had a public national forum...and I know little more than I did before the interview. The addressing "non usac fans" is crap. Song and dance, smoke and mirrors, call it what you will. Call into a radio show for answers? Why? Kevin posts on here (which is cool). Why can't he simply post, putting these issues and rumors to rest? What's his stance on Greg Staab? Post it. CRA? Post it. Cost control? Post it.
Sorry for the rant...I do hope he knows what he's doing and gets USAC straightened out. It's just getting pretty frustrating watching my lifelong favorite club losing so much respect.

With all due respect...
David.
USAC Fan
  #25 6/30/08 12:29 AM
Originally Posted by Ovalmeister:
Why can't he simply post, putting these issues and rumors to rest? What's his stance on Greg Staab? Post it. CRA? Post it. Cost control? Post it.
Why? Did you ever think maybe all decisions haven't been made yet? Do you have any idea the outburst this board would have if Kevin Miller came on here and ran down all the ideas he wanted to do but then they were only able to do one or two of them? This board would rip him up and down.

Kevin comes on here now, as it is and gives people straight answers but the black helicopter conspiracy theorists are right behind telling us how he's lying, stroking us, and he doesn't care. I don't even understand why Kevin bothers. No matter what he says he gets bashed. This thread is a 100% perfect illustration.

Kevin Miller has no reason to lie about the new cars. If there was no plan to use the new cars, he would come out and say it. He said, tonight, they would be back no earlier than 2010. Don't you think it would be the least bit intelligent to wait until 2009 or late 2009 for them to make a public announcement? and that's even if 2010 is the year, they'll be back. If sc96 is so concerned about his investmen, why doesn't he pick up a phone and call Kevin? If he's not happy with the answers he gets now, maybe he should give up and just sell what he can. Incredibly shortsighted, if you ask me, but it's his choice.

This weekend USAC worked in conjunction with the IRL to stream the SC and Sprint races on both websites. Now the IRL has been doing this since last year, when USAC runs with them, but this was the first time USAC helped promote and participate it. As I was reading the posts on the USAC website, all I read was complaints about the car counts, complaints about the crowd, complaints about the feed, complaints about this, complaints about that. Seems like none of you people are happy.

You people must think Kevin Miller is some kind of miracle worker and he'll have 100,000 purses for every race, nightly national TV, flush with series sponsors overnight but you know what, it doesn't happen like that in THE REAL WORLD, not the fantasy world some of you people live in where you expect 50 cars nightly for 10 bucks admission and 50 cent Cokes and Hot dogs. Businesses are putting together their budgets for the 2009 year, so I'm sure Miller and his new people are burning up the phones working on sponsorships. Some of you people would be well-pressed to be patient and let this guy improve USAC. He didn't rebuild Mopar Racing by being a lucky idiot.
DonMoore10 (Offline)
  #26 6/30/08 12:30 AM
If the rumor is true, it sounds like Emmett Hahn may be on to something with the possibility of a $10,000 Chevy midget engine hooked up to a National Series. Hurray for Mr. Hahn for stepping out of the box and coming up with some kind of idea that doesn't patronize the dozen or less multi-millionaire USAC midget teams racing for $2500. Mr. Miller's assessment that midget racing is healthy is totally rediculous. The Chili Bowl is certainly not a barometer of the health of midget racing. Wow.. put the pipe down please.
USAC Fan
  #27 6/30/08 12:38 AM
Originally Posted by DonMoore10:
spridge needs a touch of reality and become a car owner. :action-smiley-049:
Hey Don, why don't you ever attack POWRi like you attack USAC for allowing the rules they do? You have no credibility with anyone simply because your agenda is anti-USAC and everyone else gets a free pass simply because they're NOT USAC.
sceckert (Offline)
  #28 6/30/08 12:51 AM
I think a few important things are just plain missing here, in citing how progressive it is to see Kevin Miller on Wind Tunnel:
Progress is not measured by whether or not the top USAC salesman gets some Q&A time on Despain's show, while sitting in a Detroit studio. Progress is when Brad Sweet, Cole Whitt, and Chad Boat--those talents being spoken about on the air during the Q&A--are sitting together facing a litany of questions from Despain and R.Miller.
No race fan (whether casual to open wheel, but watching "Wind Tunnel" because they respect Dave, or rabid about open wheel and watching specifically because this episode promised a minimum of "Is Kyle a punk?" and "Can Little E get off the schneid?" call-ins) will be swayed one way or the other if a PR person says "The future looks great!" But give them a chance to hear the guy who swept two nights of Knoxville midget action talk about what it meant to him and his team, while the telecast shows action-packed highlights of that very race, and they might become a fan.
Or have Cole Whitt and Chad Boat describe trading the "Youngest Ever To Win a USAC National Event" honor in the span of a few nights while in a garage together, and maybe that story would really resonate with a bunch of 10 year-olds in Illinois, and push them toward asking their dads to take them to some Sprintweek shows.
I can foresee NO tangible benefit from a genuinely un-exciting Mr.Miller stating that Midget Racing has never been stronger on a channel devoted to fendered folks. I could certainly envision a possible bump coming if the actual drivers--merely the absolute bread and butter of the club itself--got a chance to throw a little flavor into such a forum. I wouldn't be surprised if their relative lack of requisite sponsor-mentioning felt like a breath of fresh air to many.
I just don't think that predictable answers from non-participants are going to move the meter. ANY race fans want to hear REAL racers talk about real races in real terms. Heroes aren't pre-sold and pre-packaged: They are created when they do heroic things. Even this Joey Logano-kid would be scoffed at for all this hype but for the fact that two weeks after he turned 18 he blitzed Kyle Busch like he was anchored to the asphalt. He is on his way because he is as real as rain.
Despain does no favors to USAC or open wheel by trading jabs with Robin Miller for an hour. He does favors when he starts introducing viewers to the almost bottomless well of driving talent currently overflowing the USAC waters.
DonMoore10 (Offline)
  #29 6/30/08 12:52 AM
Where have you been for the last zillion years? All the midget orgs in the US are afraid of their own shadow. Whatever USAC does, they do.
USAC Fan
  #30 6/30/08 12:55 AM
Originally Posted by DonMoore10:
Where have you been for the last zillion years? All the midget orgs in the US are afraid of their own shadow. Whatever USAC does, they do.
That's not USAC's problem. If the USAC model is so terrible, what does that say about the groups that copy them? Not alot IMO

No comment about your anti-USAC agenda and SPEC PARTS DO NOT BELONG IN A NATIONAL SERIES. HAHN'S DEAL WILL BE A JOKE JUST LIKE HIS SPRINT CAR SERIES
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