Originally Posted by ossuks:
I must say that it is amazing how people will bash and give partial facts.
A pit pass at Brownstown is always $35, but usac worked a deal to get members in for a reduced price.
When the locals run at Bloomington, Gas City, ect.. is'nt a pit pass $25 ? Then they run for $1200 to win and like $100 to start. When usac races at these same joints members pay $25 and non-members pay $30. Then they race for a $20,000 purse vs the weekly purse of $6500.
What did a pitpass cost to run the $3000 to win at Bloomington?
Do you have to be a member of mscs to race, how much is that?
How much would a pitpass cost at a local show if the purse was $20,000, buy simple math if its $25 for $6500, would it be $80 for $20,000?
Who gets the pitpass money ( for those of you that do not know THE PROMOTER DOES)?
So we are down to a $30 fee to race with a club that has 325% bigger purse!
I would bet the promoters are hoping that a "boycot" of usac is successful, then they will not have to compete with usac and can run races all year for $6500 ( they do raise them once in a while when usac is close, huh, when the crowd is smaller and there bigger local guys run with usac they can afford to raise the purse).
usac charges a fee for officials, how many they have, and what they pay is not of concern in regards to the price of a pitpass or non member fee.The promoter pays for the officials not the competitor.
Be careful what you wish for and who you follow because your wish may come true. If usac was to close shop then all the best will be in your back yard each week! Then the locals will be running in the b-main.
How many local tracks have an ambulance that can transport. how many have a paramedic? Be careful of your answer?
From a fans stand point I am behind you 100%. I would love to see all the big guns each week at the local tracks for a discount price!!
Key word is USAC worked for its members to get in for a reduced price. Non members 35.00 plus the 40.00 entry fee. So we have choice become member for both car owner and driver around 500.00
MSCS does have a membership but it is I think between 50 to 100. But that is for all year and you are guaranteed 100 bucks when you hit the track.
I am glad USAC has higher purse but not happy they do not share it with all that compete.
Originally Posted by ossuks:
I must say that it is amazing how people will bash and give partial facts.
A pit pass at Brownstown is always $35, but usac worked a deal to get members in for a reduced price.
When the locals run at Bloomington, Gas City, ect.. is'nt a pit pass $25 ? Then they run for $1200 to win and like $100 to start. When usac races at these same joints members pay $25 and non-members pay $30. Then they race for a $20,000 purse vs the weekly purse of $6500.
What did a pitpass cost to run the $3000 to win at Bloomington?
Do you have to be a member of mscs to race, how much is that?
How much would a pitpass cost at a local show if the purse was $20,000, buy simple math if its $25 for $6500, would it be $80 for $20,000?
Who gets the pitpass money ( for those of you that do not know THE PROMOTER DOES)?
So we are down to a $30 fee to race with a club that has 325% bigger purse!
I would bet the promoters are hoping that a "boycot" of usac is successful, then they will not have to compete with usac and can run races all year for $6500 ( they do raise them once in a while when usac is close, huh, when the crowd is smaller and there bigger local guys run with usac they can afford to raise the purse).
usac charges a fee for officials, how many they have, and what they pay is not of concern in regards to the price of a pitpass or non member fee.The promoter pays for the officials not the competitor.
Be careful what you wish for and who you follow because your wish may come true. If usac was to close shop then all the best will be in your back yard each week! Then the locals will be running in the b-main.
How many local tracks have an ambulance that can transport. how many have a paramedic? Be careful of your answer?
From a fans stand point I am behind you 100%. I would love to see all the big guns each week at the local tracks for a discount price!!
Originally Posted by Sprint Fan:
I think alot of what Kevin is saying is quite true and I understand him completely!
The expense of racing is off the charts, and it hasn't been this bad since Jimmy Carter was in office!
And it may get worse before it gets better?
But on the other hand, I had a good friend that was injured a few years back at a USAC event, the care and concern he recieved was amazing!
I seriously doubt there is ANY other racing sanction that takes better care of their racers than USAC did then.
So sometimes in the big picture, you have to look at that half empty glass and realize, that it is really half full!
Daaaamn! :thumbsdown:
Must be one of the reasons I never go there, and if I do go there, I sure won't go to the pits!
USAC has the best insurance bar none in sprint car racing. But after talking to Greg Stabb last week the insurance is different for non members than members. If this is wrong please correct me.
Ossuks I am attaching my post from another thread. I respect your opinion and hope USAC is very succesfull and local is to. Hope this helps you understand what I am saying.
Originally Posted by riskybrisky5:
I never mentioned that I expect show up money. I expect every racer that is there should recieve some prize money. Going home with nothing is a slap in the face. The entry fee has nothing to do with the promoters but is from USAC. It is over and above the pit pass. If I were a promoter I would force USAC to get rid of both the entry fee and not paying everyone. The promoters are the ones losing the most because of this. Less cars less revenue. like I said a minimum of four people on average enter the pits with each car. Then add all the family and friends with each car that either choose the stands or pits. Take Brownstown for example I know for sure I had 10 people in the pits just because I went there to race. They rode with us including the 6 I paid for. I also know of 8 people in the stands. Lets total that $350.00 for pits and $200.00 from the stands. That does not include some of my uncles and aunts that I dont know if they were there. That is $550.00 to the promoter. Well if I am promoter and I know that I am going to lose that income from just 1 driver not being there I am going to be upset. Multiply that times every driver that decides the same thing and it adds up quick. So if I am a promoter I would gladly pay 90.00 more per car in sanctioning fee to make sure those guys come back. It is simple to fix. In the contract state every car over 36 cars is $90.00 added to the purse payable after the event. $40.00 can go to USAC saving us the entry fee and $50.00 for every car that didnt transfer through the non qualifiers. Or best case scenerio find a non qualifiers race sponsor for all season and that money goes to those racers. Again not expecting show up money just some money for competing and a thank you for being there supporting the race.
