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AP64 (Offline)
  #21 8/19/09 11:41 AM
Originally Posted by aussiemidgetfan:
A) It is not the role of motor racing to promote manufacturers!
B) B removed to stop a fight breaking out but don't forget the German-Belgian Fiesta/Focus/Mondeo and German Astra/Vectra

But that is one of the largest contributing parties in motorsports.
sc96 (Offline)
  #22 8/19/09 11:58 AM
Originally Posted by ashmoredesign:
Rodney is right here and another point that is worth clarifying, which has come up in this thread and is also in the Kevin Miller thread, is the following.

USAC is doing nothing to promote the Gold Crown Championship. In fact it's quite the opposite. They are looking to see if it will survive on its own. The series investment is solely from the current group of Gold Crown car owners, nothing from USAC, and it will only get going by the guys who own these cars, not USAC. So please don't blame them for this revival, they wanted to sweep it under the carpet as if nothing had ever happened. We as a group couldn't do that. When you have guys like AJ Foyt and Roger Penske involved with a series and these guys believe what you are doing is a good idea, then it drives you on. These two car owners and the entire group of the rest of the car owners were encouraged to be involved by NASCAR and the old management of USAC. The Gold Crown Championship does not replace any other series out there. It is intended to add something to racing and gives another option for race drivers and car owners to climb the ladder.

When we talk about the design of a car in any series there are some some interesting points to consider. Although Gold Crown will be a premier series it is also a ladder series car. This means it will introduce elements of the next step. And not all the elements. Then a driver can retain knowledge of the last series and can also participate in the last series at selected events while particiapating in the next step. The Gold Crown will have drivers from Sprint car and Silver Crown as it has front engine, upright seat, similar level of grip in the turns and HP level, so has similar levels of wheel spin. It is symmetrical, has radial tires, reduced stagger, runs on road courses and speedways, has a two speed gearbox and so has features of the next step which is NASCAR and IndyCar. Therefore you can have drivers from those series running competitively with the regular Gold Crown drivers. this was witnessed when the series did run and JJ Yeley and Carl Edwards put on a great show at some of the events. Take this to the logical conclusion and you have a good training platform for drivers and teams wishing to progress to the next level.

The Gold Crown car layout was well thought out, it worked as a driver development program, and we had 21 cars in the last race that it ran. If it weren't for that last fact this Gold Crown project wouldn't have got this far. We aren't asking any you to own one, drive one or sponsor one. In fact we really don't want you to come to a race if you believe it is a waste of your money. We do however want you to let us develop the idea and stop bashing it before it has a chance to show what it can do. This is not USAC saying this, it is the guys who got involved in the first place.

Thanks
Well said Bruce.
AP64 (Offline)
  #23 8/19/09 11:58 AM
It's funny how most threads turn into bash sessions, just after a few posted. When I started this, I just had a few questions. That I thought someone on here would have answers for, and they did. I wanted to know more about what was going on, because I couldn't find anything on the USAC web site. But now I know more about what is going on, and why I couldn't find it on the USAC web site. Thank you Ashmore Design for all of your input.

Aaron Pollock
Hubie (Offline)
  #24 8/19/09 12:29 PM
Your going to road race this car?
sc96 (Offline)
  #25 8/19/09 12:39 PM
Originally Posted by Hubie:
Your going to road race this car?
Yes the plan is to run some road races. A test was already done and it went very well.
Gene Franckowiak (Offline)
  #26 8/19/09 1:24 PM
Yes, roger Penske.........just look at all the positive impact he had on Can-Am, Trans-Am, Indy Car Racing, etc. While your'e getting Penske involved.....why not Patrick, Haas, etc........they could probablly do to the Gold Crown Series what hey did to Indy Car Racing. They took it to another leverl.........lower level
Hubie (Offline)
  #27 8/19/09 2:01 PM
Mr Ashmore, have you fallen on your head?


Knowing a thing or two about racing and fans, this is a collosal failure waiting to happen.

Best of luck to you and your "group"

duel (Offline)
  #28 8/19/09 2:45 PM
I hope this series is very successful. I will support anything within 300 miles. I don't mind road/street courses but really prefer watching ovals. Good luck Gold Crown!
sc96 (Offline)
  #29 8/19/09 3:16 PM
A true race fan of our sport would have nothing but positive words for what the Goldcrown group is trying to do. FACT 1, Give midget,sprint,and silvercrown drivers and owners a chance to run larger venues that with out Goldcrown they would NEVER GET A CHANCE TO DO. FACT 2, Give the same group of drivers a chance to get speedway experience on tracks larger than 1 mile (Silvercrown is down to one 1 mile track ) so to get that experience drivers are forced to go to ARCA etc. FACT 3 A driver must have speedway experience to even get NASCAR license. So every driver who wants to move up is forced to pay out a dump truck load of money and if you dont have the money you get no chance at all. The Goldcrown series will give drivers the experience on larger tracks that they must have for alot less money. So there for more guys can get there shot and get the experience they need. So what is the down side to this program?? I dont see one.
AP64 (Offline)
  #30 8/19/09 3:30 PM
Originally Posted by sc96:
A true race fan of our sport would have nothing but positive words for what the Goldcrown group is trying to do. FACT 1, Give midget,sprint,and silvercrown drivers and owners a chance to run larger venues that with out Goldcrown they would NEVER GET A CHANCE TO DO. FACT 2, Give the same group of drivers a chance to get speedway experience on tracks larger than 1 mile (Silvercrown is down to one 1 mile track ) so to get that experience drivers are forced to go to ARCA etc. FACT 3 A driver must have speedway experience to even get NASCAR license. So every driver who wants to move up is forced to pay out a dump truck load of money and if you dont have the money you get no chance at all. The Goldcrown series will give drivers the experience on larger tracks that they must have for alot less money. So there for more guys can get there shot and get the experience they need. So what is the down side to this program?? I dont see one.

I agree with you one this one sc96. There isn't a down side. I look forward to seeing these cars run, and would love to run one myself.
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