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TQ29m (Offline)
  #21 2/13/09 3:19 PM
And Lloyd Ruby, at Columbus. Bob
aceace
  #22 2/13/09 3:23 PM
I would send him a formal letter stating why the drivers had to be 16yoa. (I assume insurance reasons) tell him he cannot run until he's 16 and will have to prove it then. Next, I would explain to everyone else running that they must have a valid ID issued by the state proving their age so this does not happen again. Require them to give you a photocopy. This is to protect the organization. If nothing happened through the season and he got away with it, let it go. Just step up your enforcement. This was really a mistake of the organization by not covering your a__. CYA, one of lifes lessons that everyone learns eventually.
Charles Nungester (Online)
  #23 2/13/09 3:38 PM
Originally Posted by Sandy Lowe:
You are in charge of a racing organization with a rule that all drivers must be at least 16 years of age.

At the end of the season it is confirmed that you had a driver compete at a majority of your events when he was only 14 years old.

This driver wants to continue to race with your organization next season at the age of 15. (He will not turn 16 until the following year.)

What would you do?
Gotta have rules everyone lives under and pretty even handed penalties as well.

That driver would be suspended for two years. Making his eligibility age 17. One year penalty for participating illegally. One year penalty to make up for the year he participated.

Charles Nungester
Sandy Lowe (Offline)
  #24 2/13/09 3:45 PM
OOPS!

I was going to post a poll earlier but then changed my mind. I guess I didn't log out correctly since part of it is still here.

It was going to be multiple choice:
#1) Inform him the minimum age is 16 and when he turns 16 he is welcome to race with your organization.

#2) Put it to a vote of the membership. If they approve changing the minimum driving age to 15 you allow him to race.

#3) Leave the minimum driving age as 16, but allow him to race since he already competed with your organization as a 14 year old.
Charles Nungester (Online)
  #25 2/13/09 3:58 PM
So where are the consequenses in your three choices? Id have no change. Theres a reason the rule is there. Insurance? Safety? If your just going to let him participate from here on out still under 16 then you might as well eliminate the rule entirely.

Chuck, saying the consequences wouldn't only be for the one who broke the rule. But to discourage others from doing it in the future.

Charles Nungester
Speedsme
  #26 2/13/09 4:08 PM
Any money that was earned last year was recieved under fraudulent surcumstances. Make him pay it back and ban him for life. That type of fraud and deceite would be cause for firing and or go to jail at most jobs.

Or tell him to run for public office!!
Knoke77 (Offline)
  #27 2/13/09 4:09 PM
If I remember correctly wasn't this hypothetical person actually emancipated to show he was 16?

And he also brought Al Unser Sr. to the Columbus kart track also as I have a picture with me standing next to him!

I remember running some road courses in karts and fibbing about my age so I could race. :O:
Barney (Offline)
  #28 2/13/09 4:09 PM
It sounds pretty plain to me. If you have a rule you have to inforce it or you throw the whole rule book out the window and let anyone do what ever they want.
sprint38racer (Offline)
  #29 2/13/09 4:13 PM
I agree with the earlier post of make him wait until he's 17, there has to be a consequence. This underage deal puts a lot of people in a bad liability situation.
Sandy Lowe (Offline)
  #30 2/13/09 4:18 PM
Originally Posted by Knoke77:
If I remember correctly wasn't this hypothetical person actually emancipated to show he was 16?

And he also brought Al Unser Sr. to the Columbus kart track also as I have a picture with me standing next to him!

I remember running some road courses in karts and fibbing about my age so I could race. :O:
Jason,

I don't remember if anyone was emancipated or not. I do know the rule stated you had to be at least 16, not you must be at least 16 unless emancipated.

Sandy
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