[ossuks]

Originally Posted by BrentTFunk NAMARS was fine with Jack Calabrase. The series crumbled after he was gone. As for Bill Carey's comments. I agree that is a lot of money, but that is true with most not for profits. Such as the National Football League. We have not for profit charity in Kokomo that lives off donations and the United Way where the Director makes $129,000 a year. I am not saying right or wrong, I am saying it is very common. Hey Bill, what did the guy make before Kevin Miller , or the guy before him? I am sure it was comparable, yet I don't remember you ever complaining about that. I think I know why. When I worked for a promoter he asked what the nightly payroll was for his Sprintweek race. You were paid $500 a night, your wife was paid $250, and your son was paid $250. So let's not act like people were donating their time until Kevin Miller showed up. I don't think you are concerned with what the President of USAC makes near as much as you are bitter that your cash cow died. Why else would you have been so silent so long? Please feel free to answer my questions.

Wow!! Somebody owes me some money!!! Facts are I made $175 and my wife and son made $125. Also, we paid for gas, food, and motels. $125,000 was the max salary, to my knowledge for the previous President!

So, either someone has memory problem, or someone lies OR, KM was charging that amount and paying much less !!

Brent, if you are going to make statements about me at least have a clue as to what your saying!!

As Bill G. has stated I have ridden this horse long enough, so....I think I will delete this site from my cp and move on!

[DaveP63]

Originally Posted by ThrowbackRacingTeam Thanks Mr. Gardner. Midget week does look consistent and that's good. But, there are so many others that are hurting and Mr. Miller seems to be oblivious. Belleville and anything on half miles, all pavement races, everything at Sun Prairie, sprint cars at Terre Haute and all other half miles, sprints everywhere besides the Indiana quarters and Silver Crown at every race. That's a lot for me to accept that everything is fine. If only having 23 sprinters at the Hulman Classic doesn't raise a red flag, I don't know what will. They don't run midgets there anymore because of the engines. The day they have to stop running the sprints there would be very devastating for people like me that love the half miles so much. I sure hope things turn around somehow.

Funny thing. We went there (THAT) for years with sprints and midgets and never gave it a thought because THAT'S WHERE THE RACE WAS. If Kenny doesn't want to take his stuff there because he feels it's not safe, I can respect that. But this "it's too hard on the motors" crap just burns my ass. If you didn't feel the need to wind it 10,000 metaphorical RPMs then maybe it wouldn't be as hard on the motors. "But everybody else is doing it, so we have to do it to compete". Fine, here's how you fix it. Everybody gets an ECU or spark box, or however you want to control it, from USAC and it's chipped so you can't turn over 8K before it starts cutting cylinders two at a time. You wanna turn 10K? Fine, enjoy it with your 4 cylinder. Turn it in at the end of the night. Go somewhere else, run your own.

[Jerry Shaw]

Originally Posted by ossuks As Bill G. has stated I have ridden this horse long enough, so....I think I will delete this site from my cp and move on!

What? Because Bill disagreed with you? Or Brent did? Somebody with your experience and knowledge could add so much to this board, if they wanted to. And God knows sometimes it needs it, to act as a counter weight to some of the dumbass posts that are put up. You don't have to do "I Hate USAC In It's Current Form Show" all the time. I think most people have gotten your point.

Jerry

[Bill Gardner]

Originally Posted by ossuks As Bill G. has stated I have ridden this horse long enough, so....I think I will delete this site from my cp and move on!

Well... that wasn't what I was trying to do. People discount some of the things you say because sometimes you sound like a disgruntled former employee. You can be constructive or "participate" without sounding like your grinding an axe. I know you can because I've seen it before.

[kundog]

It amazes me how clueless people are on here, I'm not grass roots? I field 3 cars and I'm bad for the sport, people want sponsers to go away, just amazing the things people think.
Keith Kunz

[thebus79h]

Keith, I want you there. That's for damn sure. And so does everybody else. Your job is to go win races, ya'll do it. Keep doing it.

I will say this, I know a guy that as tried calling the USAC office about getting information on the national series, and nobody will call him back. Don't blame the racers all the time.

[BrentTFunk]

Originally Posted by ossuks Wow!! Somebody owes me some money!!! Facts are I made $175 and my wife and son made $125. Also, we paid for gas, food, and motels. $125,000 was the max salary, to my knowledge for the previous President! So, either someone has memory problem, or someone lies OR, KM was charging that amount and paying much less !! Brent, if you are going to make statements about me at least have a clue as to what your saying!! As Bill G. has stated I have ridden this horse long enough, so....I think I will delete this site from my cp and move on!

I am just basing this on what I was told back then. You mean to tell me you never were in a casino parking lot in a USAC vehicle on your way to the races? C'mon man.

[Tim Clauson]

Keith I think for the good of the sport and to try something different to engage the fans. Can I suggest that you stay home this weekend ? Lets see if it will drive up car counts and bring more fans to APS this weekend.

My guess would be that car count would be down 3 cars, the fan count would remain unchanged and a Kunz wrenched car would still find victory lane ... but it is worth a try, what do you say I mean for the good of the sport and all ......

Tim Clauson

Originally Posted by kundog It amazes me how clueless people are on here, I'm not grass roots? I field 3 cars and I'm bad for the sport, people want sponsers to go away, just amazing the things people think. Keith Kunz

[kundog]

Tim, I would love to have two days off from my corporate job, but my wife demands that I work this holiday weekend to put food on the table, so I must go continue to ruin the sport.

[STARS Racing]

So what is the answer......?