Milwaukee gone

rpedersen20 · 4/11/13, 5:33 PM

Again, where is the sizzle to excite these young people who are the future of our sport?[/QUOTE]

Create a party type atmosphere at the tracks for the younger people to enjoy.People always say the kids are the ones to concentrate on, but I disagree. They have no money to spend of their own. Sure they can bug a parent to go but lets be realistic money is tight.The people I would try and get to my track would be over 21 and working class.Hell if it were up to me I would make every race have a snake pit,beerhill, ghetto,or etc and let the natives take over. Over the years me and my other racing friends have brought many new people to the tracks, the only races they ever want to go back to are the party events. I could make someones first race IRP Silver crown and there would be a chance they might not come back. The party is what keeps a lot of us younger people coming back or going in the first place. I have seen many terrible tracks and races but I am a fan and will always come back.Hard to explain to a newbie that sometimes the racing just flat sucks and sometimes its great! One more thing that might help with the younger crowd is to allow booing in the stands.Give the fans a chance to feel like there are good guys and bad guys just like at a basketball game.Most of the fans that go anymore are as you all stated old timers who sit on their hands the whole show.Everyone enjoy your season I will be the loud one booing your favorite driver.

BrentTFunk · 4/11/13, 6:16 PM

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Originally Posted by racephoto1

Well Funkster, do want horse track mile or State fairgrounds? Dirt or pavement? I'll see you at the Hoosier Hundred, Springfield , and DuQuoin.

A dirt mile used for auto racing.

sc96 · 4/11/13, 6:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rpedersen20

Again, where is the sizzle to excite these young people who are the future of our sport?

Create a party type atmosphere at the tracks for the younger people to enjoy.People always say the kids are the ones to concentrate on, but I disagree. They have no money to spend of their own. Sure they can bug a parent to go but lets be realistic money is tight.The people I would try and get to my track would be over 21 and working class.Hell if it were up to me I would make every race have a snake pit,beerhill, ghetto,or etc and let the natives take over. Over the years me and my other racing friends have brought many new people to the tracks, the only races they ever want to go back to are the party events. I could make someones first race IRP Silver crown and there would be a chance they might not come back. The party is what keeps a lot of us younger people coming back or going in the first place. I have seen many terrible tracks and races but I am a fan and will always come back.Hard to explain to a newbie that sometimes the racing just flat sucks and sometimes its great! One more thing that might help with the younger crowd is to allow booing in the stands.Give the fans a chance to feel like there are good guys and bad guys just like at a basketball game.Most of the fans that go anymore are as you all stated old timers who sit on their hands the whole show.Everyone enjoy your season I will be the loud one booing your favorite driver.[/QUOTE]
You have hit the nail square on the head build some excitement throw a hell of a party and a race broke out!!!!! But the one major bump is u gotta get more than 15 cars to show up call every owner from the past 15 years and put cash in there hand to show up 2000.00 to show would be a good place to start then pay another 2000.00 to run dead last and up from there. And do it again and again then you might have something started

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usac99 · 4/11/13, 6:23 PM

Well guess what folks ? all half mile silver crown races are only 50 LAPS!!!!!!!! thanks USAC

ossuks · 4/11/13, 6:33 PM

The question was asked "why go to a SC race?" IMO hot laps at DQ are the best, and........Hot laps at DQ.......and hot laps at DQ......oh, and to see how Miller is going to jack things up!!:....and hot laps at DQ!

usac99 · 4/11/13, 7:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BrentTFunk

For a guy who never pays to get in races, you sure have all the answers. If it is so easy why don't you do it? I love these cars, but car owners and fans aren't that interested in them. Plain and simple. If they were the PRA would have drawn cars. They drew less than USAC. Answer this Chris, if you have the guts to, when was the last dirt mile built in America? That answer says alot.

PRA ? Went belly up? right ? Hey doesn't the two guys that ran PRA now run USAC? Mr. Mister Obvious never made the connection!!

sp6967 · 4/11/13, 8:00 PM

the dirt miles have slowly gone down hill since they were removed from the championship trail.lets face it the good ol' days are long gone,and all the partying you can do ain't gonna bring them back.

ThrowbackRacingTeam · 4/11/13, 11:15 PM

In one of Sargent's first years of promoting Springfield he added STREET STOCKS to support the still prestigious Silver Crown race which drew over 50 cars and a mostly full grandstand! And in the process had to move up the starting time for practice to a ridiculously early hour. I believe the year was 1992. He was a stock car lover who apparently cared and/or knew nothing about the history and prestige of that type of racing. His track prep is the most boringly predictable the miles have ever seen and translates to boring racing almost every time, excluding the first year of lights at DQ. Sargent is not the answer, just another part of the problem. Couple that with 2 very poor rule decisions by USAC, an aging fan base and more and more years removed from when these races were part of the old Championship trail. Most people today don't even call them Championship Dirt cars....which is what they actually are or were. How do you fix all this? You can't. Just enjoy what's left while you can, if you can.

racephoto1 · 4/12/13, 12:20 AM

Funkster, least I can tell is 1982 when they cut Nazareth down from 11/8 to 1 mile.The only one before that for strictly auto racing appears to be Langhorne.
As for atmosphere, before they had a couple rainouts and didn't run, the Hoosier Hundred was growing in the late 90's and early 2000's.

They'd have a snakepit in turn 1, be like a big party. Even Roman Comer came out from Phoenix. Actually was beginning to take on the atmosphere of an "event" as some people call it.

As for crowds, the first night show at DuQuoin packed the place.

Unfortunately , as much as I love the champ dirt cars, my boss is right. The attention span and interests of the younger generation are no longer what they once were.I can't say it can't be done, but there is a lot of work ahead.
The stabilization of the rules package this year is a step in the right direction.

One thing they can do , which would be like other motor sports events, is open the pits up before on track activities start. Let the fans up close to the cars and drivers. The young guys would like the gearhead approach, and also get to know the faces behind the names. The dirt series in this country don't get nearly the coverage the stock car deals get, so make the drivers and cars more accessible . It's a lot more enjoyable to see them in person , instead of on TV.

BrentTFunk · 4/12/13, 6:22 AM

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Originally Posted by usac99

PRA ? Went belly up? right ? Hey doesn't the two guys that ran PRA now run USAC? Mr. Mister Obvious never made the connection!!

Why did they go belly up? They had little support from teams or fans.

4/12/13, 12:20 AM	#29 Re: Milwaukee gone
racephoto1 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,253	Funkster, least I can tell is 1982 when they cut Nazareth down from 11/8 to 1 mile.The only one before that for strictly auto racing appears to be Langhorne. As for atmosphere, before they had a couple rainouts and didn't run, the Hoosier Hundred was growing in the late 90's and early 2000's. They'd have a snakepit in turn 1, be like a big party. Even Roman Comer came out from Phoenix. Actually was beginning to take on the atmosphere of an "event" as some people call it. As for crowds, the first night show at DuQuoin packed the place. Unfortunately , as much as I love the champ dirt cars, my boss is right. The attention span and interests of the younger generation are no longer what they once were.I can't say it can't be done, but there is a lot of work ahead. The stabilization of the rules package this year is a step in the right direction. One thing they can do , which would be like other motor sports events, is open the pits up before on track activities start. Let the fans up close to the cars and drivers. The young guys would like the gearhead approach, and also get to know the faces behind the names. The dirt series in this country don't get nearly the coverage the stock car deals get, so make the drivers and cars more accessible . It's a lot more enjoyable to see them in person , instead of on TV. _________________________________________________ Last edited by racephoto1; 4/12/13 at 12:23 AM.

4/11/13, 6:23 PM	#24 Re: Milwaukee gone
usac99 Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 98	Well guess what folks ? all half mile silver crown races are only 50 LAPS!!!!!!!! thanks USAC

4/11/13, 6:33 PM	#25 Re: Milwaukee gone
ossuks Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 996	The question was asked "why go to a SC race?" IMO hot laps at DQ are the best, and........Hot laps at DQ.......and hot laps at DQ......oh, and to see how Miller is going to jack things up!!:....and hot laps at DQ!

4/11/13, 8:00 PM	#27 Re: Milwaukee gone
sp6967 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 902	the dirt miles have slowly gone down hill since they were removed from the championship trail.lets face it the good ol' days are long gone,and all the partying you can do ain't gonna bring them back.

4/11/13, 11:15 PM	#28 Re: Milwaukee gone
ThrowbackRacingTeam Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,001	In one of Sargent's first years of promoting Springfield he added STREET STOCKS to support the still prestigious Silver Crown race which drew over 50 cars and a mostly full grandstand! And in the process had to move up the starting time for practice to a ridiculously early hour. I believe the year was 1992. He was a stock car lover who apparently cared and/or knew nothing about the history and prestige of that type of racing. His track prep is the most boringly predictable the miles have ever seen and translates to boring racing almost every time, excluding the first year of lights at DQ. Sargent is not the answer, just another part of the problem. Couple that with 2 very poor rule decisions by USAC, an aging fan base and more and more years removed from when these races were part of the old Championship trail. Most people today don't even call them Championship Dirt cars....which is what they actually are or were. How do you fix all this? You can't. Just enjoy what's left while you can, if you can.