[Hotshoe65s]

Al:
All the support classes run an 8inch tire that can not run in the slime and crap that was on the entire bottom of the track.
And as for you saying I need to talk to track management about how I and all the other support classes feel about track conditions, it doesn't do any good because all track management cares about is what sprint car fans think and what they think on this site. They read this forum and base everything off what's said on here. So I thought Id bring my opinion to their attention.
They cater to sprint cars so much it is unbelievable. The track might be good for the 20 sprints, but it's junk for the other 60 guys that wanted to support joe. But yet the track management doesnt seem to care. As long as the sprints are good that's all they care about.

Maybe you can see my frustration or maybe you can't. But myself and the people that help me spend well over 10 hours a week preparing the car to go support joe. And then we get pissed on cause sprint fans want a hammer down track. And my car along with about all the other support class cars get destroyed. I have at least 8 hours worth of body work to do because the track was so terrible in the heats that the guy trying to pass me got in the slime and then destroyed the left side of my car.

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Originally Posted by Racer12 But, isn't that part of the challenge...to set your car up to existing track conditions? BINGO! We have a winner! Bob

Buy yourself a race car that runs an 8 inch tire and get it to work in the slime, and then come say it's part of the challenge. And then you can pay for all the bent crap and tore up body. I've been racing at Lps for the last 5 years and have dozens of wins, I think my team can set a car up for various track conditions, but lately it's been impossible to pass and race on. I know LPS can prep the track to be right, but the persistent complaining by sprint car fans for a heavy track has brainwashed the track management. If you want a heavy track that's cool, but work the track in. Seems like a no brainer, but they keep doing it week after week. And they seem oblivious to what everyone but sprint car people think.

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[Racer12]

Originally Posted by jason_rc_racing Can't set a sprint car up to run in a bowl of soup! Posted via Mobile Device

Well then you haven't heard much or saw much of Ascot Park then have you?

Bob

[jason_rc_racing]

Lol ok guess not. The bottom row pushed up into the top row on the start took 3 attempts and 6 cars with damage and or flat tires. If you like that then good for you, but I don't. IMO Lps put race car drivers in a dangerous position last night by throwing the green flag before the track was fit to race on. Once again just my opinion.

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[Motormasher]

[QUOTE=Don 65s;288732]I'm not sure what all the tracks paid Sprints Saturday night. LPS paid $2,000 $225.00 to start. (Didn't draw anymore cars) Paragon paid 1,400 to win and had the best car count. I haven't heard anyone talking about paragons track conditions on this site. Whats up with that...[/QUOT

GREAT POINT......!!!

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[Wallsracing]

[quote=Motormasher;288795]

Originally Posted by Don 65s I'm not sure what all the tracks paid Sprints Saturday night. LPS paid $2,000 $225.00 to start. (Didn't draw anymore cars) Paragon paid 1,400 to win and had the best car count. I haven't heard anyone talking about paragons track conditions on this site. Whats up with that...[/QUOT GREAT POINT......!!! Posted via Mobile Device

Nothing to complain about when its hard black slick all the time. They only race half that track they let off at flagstand and idle through corners

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[hairracer44]

Originally Posted by Don 65s I'm not sure what all the tracks paid Sprints Saturday night. LPS paid $2,000 $225.00 to start. (Didn't draw anymore cars) Paragon paid 1,400 to win and had the best car count. I haven't heard anyone talking about paragons track conditions on this site. Whats up with that...

I can tell you from experience, I have raced at both LPS and Paragon this year. Paragon had a good track Saturday and in my opinion has done a great job all year with track prep and has had probably the best track of the 2 on a consistent basis. LPS has done a great job as well trying to prep their track. They have had a couple of slick dusty track but for the most part they have had decent tracks when I have been there.

What everyone needs to remember is that it has been dry and hot around here for months and that makes it hard to keep water in a track. This is making it more time consuming and creating a lot more work than usual to operate a dirt track(and if you haven't realized is a lot of work when conditions are good).

As far as slimy parts on a track that is a result of us guys in the sprint cars not running the track in from top to bottom. We tend to have a habit of rolling around the middle to the top of the track and not getting into the slop at the bottom. The slim on the bottom is a result of water running down the track as it is being watered not always a result of over watering. If the track official don't get on the track and force the guys working the track in to the bottom then it will not get worked in.

[jason_rc_racing]

Originally Posted by hairracer44 I can tell you from experience, I have raced at both LPS and Paragon this year. Paragon had a good track Saturday and in my opinion has done a great job all year with track prep and has had probably the best track of the 2 on a consistent basis. LPS has done a great job as well trying to prep their track. They have had a couple of slick dusty track but for the most part they have had decent tracks when I have been there. What everyone needs to remember is that it has been dry and hot around here for months and that makes it hard to keep water in a track. This is making it more time consuming and creating a lot more work than usual to operate a dirt track(and if you haven't realized is a lot of work when conditions are good). As far as slimy parts on a track that is a result of us guys in the sprint cars not running the track in from top to bottom. We tend to have a habit of rolling around the middle to the top of the track and not getting into the slop at the bottom. The slim on the bottom is a result of water running down the track as it is being watered not always a result of over watering. If the track official don't get on the track and force the guys working the track in to the bottom then it will not get worked in.

They did run in it. the track officials were on the track for a good 25 min or so when the cars wheel packed then they pulled the sprint cars and sent the mods out to wheel pack then the sprint cars hot lapped and before the feature they were back out there and made them run the bottom for probably another 5 to 10 mins before the a started then while they were waiting on the cars to change the flat tires they made them run the bottom. It was just too wet!

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[K-Dawg30]

This is why IMO we need to find a way to bring weekly midget racing to sprint car tracks in Indiana. How awesome for open wheel fans would it be to show up at the track and watch a show with a line up like: Non Wing Sprints, Midgets, and some sort of micro/mini sprint class? They do it at the doorbanger tracks. Do you ever see a sprint class mixed in at a late model/modified track on a regular basis? I guess I can only dream!

This way you dont have the stock car guys mad at the sprint guys and the sprint guys mad at the stock car guys over who gets catered to the most.

From what I have seen on Jackslash, Joe has done a FANTASTIC job this year with the track. I am dying to get up there and catch a race sometime in person!

[curbservice]

I too support Joe and his endevures 100%, I've even donated my time to help at the track. I know most on this board can't say that. All this being said WE as paying customers have the wright to critize the product we are paying for. Besides when the temps go back down the bitchin will slow down cause everybody will be off the internet and out of the ac.

[Don 65s]

Originally Posted by K-Dawg30 This is why IMO we need to find a way to bring weekly midget racing to sprint car tracks in Indiana. How awesome for open wheel fans would it be to show up at the track and watch a show with a line up like: Non Wing Sprints, Midgets, and some sort of micro/mini sprint class? They do it at the doorbanger tracks. Do you ever see a sprint class mixed in at a late model/modified track on a regular basis? I guess I can only dream! This way you dont have the stock car guys mad at the sprint guys and the sprint guys mad at the stock car guys over who gets catered to the most. From what I have seen on Jackslash, Joe has done a FANTASTIC job this year with the track. I am dying to get up there and catch a race sometime in person!

I think that would be Great. (Sprints & midgets) Maybe they should do it on Thursday nights and when they get the stands the rest of the way full move it to Saturday nights. The Sprint cars (fans also) have done a great job supporting LPS on Thursday nights. ....Im sure Paragon wouldn't mind if LPS drops the support classes. They are already getting more of the sprints. Add the support classes from LPS and Keith would be pretty happy. I don't think LPS will have to worry about about making most of the support classes happy this coming weekend. A lot are going to Brownstown.