[Jonr]

I vote for PAS. It would make visiting my "outlaws" easier for the Thanksgiving weekend. The track is relatively close to thier house. While I love Ventura, it would seem that their curfew and early start time might be a limiting factor.

[Scott Daloisio]

Things not looking good at Irwindale. http://www.dailynews.com/sports/ci_19947581

[Charles Nungester]

http://www.dailynews.com/sports/ci_19947581


Any for what it matters, I consider dogging a driver because he has a rich parent. To be totally classless and petty. It might be a little easier to get the equipment necessary but if you want it bad enough, So can you.

JS. DD, Gordon, Saldana and the like certainly didn't start in top equipment but are among the best today and still could podium with a *******.

[Tony Barhorst]

The " real racer" comment was TOTALLY uncalled for and way off base. Look at the lineup competing at Turkey Night every year...Tough competition, and a real racer wins EVERY YEAR. Quit being the judge of "real racers." It doesn't suit you well.

USAC Mopar National/Western Midget Car Series, Toyota Speedway at Irwindale, Irwindale, Calif., Nov. 24, 2011

Qualifications: 1. Kody Swanson, Wilke-Pak 11, 16.386; 2. Alex Bowman, Cline 55, 16.424; 3. Bobby Santos III, 20, Stewart-16.442; 4. Brad Kuhn, 17B, RW-16.526; 5. Evan Margeson, Beal 50, 16.552; 6. Kyle Larson, Kunz 67, 16.596; 7. Caleb Armstrong, C & A 7c, 16.597; 8. Robby Josett, Josett 2x, 16.660; 9. Tanner Swanson, RFMS 3F, 16.660; 10. Chris Windom, RW 56, 16.683; 11. Billy Wease, Rodela 25, 16.688; 12. Adam Kramer, Kramer 2, 16.732; 13. Bryan Clauson, Tucker/BCI/Curb-Agajanian 39, 16.742; 14. Darren Hagen, RFMS 3, 16.743; 15. Chad Nichols, Nichols 17x, 16.750; 16. Mario Clouser, MCM 06, 16.760; 17. Dalton Armstrong, C & A 7a,16.782; 18. Bobby East, Klatt 4, 16.785; 19. Taylor Ferns, Ferns 55f, 16.795; 20. Dillon Welch, Nine Racing 9, 16.806; 21. Kyle Hamilton, Spike 33, 16.829; 22. Tracy Hines, Parker 24, 16.833; 23. Levi Roberts, Nine Racing 91, 16.838; 24. Jason Leffler, Kunz 71, 16.850; 25. Dakoda Armstrong, C & A 7d, 16.868; 26. Troy DeCaire, Benic 2b, 16.909; 27. David Byrne, Byrne 20d, 17.126; 28. Scott Pierovich, Pierovich 35, 17.134; 29. Nick Chivello, Blackwell 27b, 17.247; 30. Ben Petter, Petter 21, 17.254; 31. Travis Berryhill, Eskesen 10c, 17.344; 32. Shannon McQueen, Cook 10, 17.366; 33. David Prickett, Neverlift 15, 17.410; 34. David Goodwill, Arata 88x, 17.804; 35. Cory Kruseman, Kruseman 21k, 17.871.

Feature (98 laps): C. Armstrong, Hagen, Clauson, Larson, K. Swanson, Kuhn, Windom, Welch, Margeson, Roberts, Hamilton, Clouser, East, Wease, Josett, Ferns, Prickett, Byrne, Dakoda Armstrong, Goodwill, Kruseman, DeCaire, Dalton Armstrong, Hines, Santos, T. Swanson, Bowman, Leffler, McQueen, Nichols, Pierovich, Chivello, Kramer, Petter, Berryhill.

[treecitytornado]

Actually Chuck, if you are referring to Jeff Gordon, he did. Bickford's stuff was definitely top equipment. Eric Gordon on the other hand started at the "Burg" in a less than competitive car and made some great accomlishments too. I remember the first time Jeff ran the "Burg" at the Hoosier Fall in Butch and Janie Smith #47x, which was a backup car to Kelly Kinser and Eric used to drive an old beat up looking #65G car. Man those were the days!

See you at the "Burg" in a couple of months!

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[I Miss Manzy]

Originally Posted by az02 Any dirt track would be awesome at this point let a real racer win it for a change Posted via Mobile Device

To paraphrase: "Let he who be without a clue,be the first to cast dispersions". Really,dude?

[BAsprintcar]

Originally Posted by actracing very solid list, but in Armstrong's case, yes he drove the car & won, but they have the best of everything with a hired crew chief. 90% of the drivers out there can win on pavement in this situation. Put him on dirt - how many races did he or his brother win then?? For all you friends & cronies of "rich" kids, tell me Armstrong's brother is better than Bryan Clausen. How did he get the ride in the truck series instead of Clausen?? Unfortunately money means alot more than talent does, but dirt levels the playing field for talent.

Dude what are you thinking? I know in a previous post that you complained about your kid racing with people who have money but now your going to complain about Armstrong having money and the kid doesn't have talent? WOW i mean he did run second at Milwaukee, won Iowa and turkey night made the show at the bowl? You really know what your talking about don't u.

Then for the Brother deal? I'm pretty sure its his cousin.

Also calusen went to Nascar land and came back and now he is getting a chance in a different direction so why would he go run a truck? Come on man he is getting a chance to run in the 500 why pass up that????

So btw who are you???

[Jonr]

Originally Posted by Scott Daloisio Things not looking good at Irwindale. http://www.dailynews.com/sports/ci_19947581

Wow. It is worse than I thought. When you start tearing the place down, it rarely ever comes back up.

[John P Huss]

I was at Ascot Park in 1989 and then we hit El Centro which was cool!
Ventura would be neat. Ascot Park land still sitting there. Reopen that
awesome facility for Turkey Night. Turkey Night in 1989 is something I'll
never forget.

Best Regards,
John

[AustinSprinter]

thats great news Scott, as always, outa the Pas'!!..on past differences tween the two Families!!....just mite be what shows the 'Green Light' for Turkey Nites return to "DIRT at the Pas' on Thurs!!...then USAC/CRA on Fri.nite!!...I'm thinkin' peeps just mite come outa woodwork for that deal!!...whats everyone think bout that at the end of year at da Pas'??...........
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