Can USAC Copyright "Champ Car"?

Seadog · 4/9/08, 8:17 AM

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Originally Posted by aussiemidgetfan

You are still missing my point. I do not deny that before 1971 they were called Champ Cars (and therefore John Zink Jnr did win 13 Champ Car races). I state that post 1971 the silver crown cars were/are not champ cars as they are/were not used in the National Championship as there were no dirt races. (check out www.champcarstats.com for proof of no dirt in 1971 onwards). Silver Crown was started as a dirt only series. That distanced itself from the National Championship and therefore the cars used in the Silver Crown could not be Champ Cars.

check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America...r_Racing#Names

We understand your point - and it is WRONG. Don't argue with David or Dwight or me. We were there - we lived it. I've been following this stuff for 54 racing seasons now. I'm not puffing my chest out, but I probably forgot more about this facet of racing than you'll ever know.

:idea:Why don't you just talk about your Aussie sporty cars and such? You seem to know about that. I don't know anything about that and don't care to.

Ovalmeister · 4/9/08, 8:35 AM

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Originally Posted by aussiemidgetfan

You are still missing my point. I do not deny that before 1971 they were called Champ Cars (and therefore John Zink Jnr did win 13 Champ Car races). I state that post 1971 the silver crown cars were/are not champ cars as they are/were not used in the National Championship as there were no dirt races. (check out www.champcarstats.com for proof of no dirt in 1971 onwards). Silver Crown was started as a dirt only series. That distanced itself from the National Championship and therefore the cars used in the Silver Crown could not be Champ Cars.

check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America...r_Racing#Names

Here's an excerpt from your Wikipedia reference:

"Due to the settlement, and the obvious lack of direct connection to the Indianapolis 500 any longer, CART decided to revert back to the former term. It rebranded itself as "Champ Car" and the machines were referred to as "Champ cars."

So if I understand your logic, just because they decide to "rebrand" themselves "champ cars", that null and voids all REAL champ cars from history? No other "champs cars", currently or previously, ever exist(ed)?
Well, I just "rebranded" my pick up truck a "champ car". I guess that trumps all previous CART cars, which means they never existed! :kookoo
David.

Ovalmeister · 4/9/08, 8:39 AM

[QUOTE=Seadog;34335]We understand your point - and it is WRONG. Don't argue with David or Dwight or me. We were there - we lived it. I've been following this stuff for 54 racing seasons now. I'm not puffing my chest out, but I probably forgot more about this facet of racing than you'll ever know.QUOTE]

AMEN brother! Testify! :respect:
David.

Seadog · 4/9/08, 9:18 AM

[QUOTE=Ovalmeister;34338]

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Originally Posted by Seadog

We understand your point - and it is WRONG. Don't argue with David or Dwight or me. We were there - we lived it. I've been following this stuff for 54 racing seasons now. I'm not puffing my chest out, but I probably forgot more about this facet of racing than you'll ever know.QUOTE]

AMEN brother! Testify! :respect:
David.

Gotta look out for my buds!:thumb

4/9/08, 8:39 AM	#23 Re: Can USAC Copyright "Champ Car"?
Ovalmeister Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 806	[QUOTE=Seadog;34335]We understand your point - and it is WRONG. Don't argue with David or Dwight or me. We were there - we lived it. I've been following this stuff for 54 racing seasons now. I'm not puffing my chest out, but I probably forgot more about this facet of racing than you'll ever know.QUOTE] AMEN brother! Testify! :respect: David.