PBH Indy is the company that is developing the Honda F20C DOHC 4-Valve here in Indianapolis. It is proving to be a cost effective alternitive for all Midget Racing sanctioning bodies. If you would like a little history on the project go to our website http://pbhindy.com and click on the "About" link. The site is under construction but it should be up and running in the next 3 or 4 weeks.

There are a few mistakes that need to be cleared up.

We have about 1500 laps of racing and testing on our engine with no major component failures. This year we're getting a little more aggressive with how "racy" we make our engine. The west coast engine that Bruce Crower built is going on it's third season with no failures. That's the engine that powered Greg Bragg driving the Walker Stealth/Honda to win their heat race at this years Chilli Bowl. We wish to thank Bruce Crower, Brian Crower and Nick Arias III for their invaluable help with this project.

As Posted. 2- The engine will be further developed in accordance with the 2008 USAC rule book and upon completion will be presented to USAC for certification. USAC inspected and preliminarily approved the first prototype engine for testing in 2006. The results of that test were highly encouraging! This engine would be compliant to any and all midget groups that utilize the USAC engine specifications as most do.

Clarification. Our engine was approved in 2006. There is no certification process at USAC. If you build it by the rule book, it's legal. Both our engine and the Walker engine are USAC legal. Additionally, all of the major components are available in reasonable quanity and at reasonable cost from various aftermarket suppliers and on our website.

3- Yes, the production based Honda S2000 is a 4-valve design.
Specifically, the engine is aluminum-alloy, both block and cylinder head ; is 16 valve -DOHC.

As Posted. 4- The Honda should be very competitive with everything else currently in use, in addition to a cost advantage in both ownership and long-term operation.

As Posted. The production engine has a displacement of 2157 cc. Because of the 4valve per cylinder configuration, USAC rules will limit this engine to 2000cc or 122.0 cubic inches. Therefore, the race version will be 9.577 cu.in. smaller but with a significant gain in both horsepower and torque.

Clarification. If any of the USAC guys are looking in, PBH Indy bases our engine on the F20C 1997c.c. (84mm x 87mm) version of the engine that in it's stock configuration falls within the 2 Liter 122 c.i. USAC mandated limitations. The F22C 2157c.c. (86mm x 87mm) does not and therefore would not be legal for USAC competition.

If anyone has questions concernig the PBH Indy F20C Honda Midget Engine, please feel free to email me at skeet@pbhindy.com

[Gasman fan 50]

Originally Posted by pgray Does anyone remember the Cosworth-Vega Midget ?

It started the poor man leaving! The races. Cost was to much.

what do you mean my engine i just think it is a cool engine

[Hawker]

Gregg Bragg from California has had some sucess running a Honda car engine in his midget. The engine is close to stock, just minor head work and the fuel system. The engine is capable of turning 16,000 RPM, but they turn it around 12k to 14k if I remember our conversation correct.

Remember the old Kenyon midget with the SESCO V8 Suzuki? There was one of these for sale at the 2007 Chili Bowl


Here is the next BIG thing coming out of the rice burner world. It is a V8 Suzuki Hayabusa!!! Imagine 455bhp with 255 foot pounds of torque at 10,500 RPM......And it only weighs 200 pounds!!! CALLING ANDY BONDIO!!!

[Gasman fan 50]

The baddest looking engine, I think is A.J. Foyt's Coyote Ford.:rolling
Sense, we are talking MIDGETS, I went into a Computer store to get tickets for a Midget race. The girl asked if they really raced midgets? I said, yes they do! You should see their little legs go!:confused::headbang :angry-smiley-007:
Joe

the sesco and the h1 but the h1 is too big and is a 72o v not a 90o v

[Larryoracing]

Does the hyabusa V8 fit into any of USAC rules for midgets?

Is it theoretically legal?

Is it a 4 valve head or two?

Thanks,

Larry Oani:thumb

[8ball]

Whatever is in that bottom picture looks like a V6 to me. Only had 3 spark plugs and 3 exhaust ports on the side we can see. Not sure what kind of engine that is?

I did do a google search for "V8 Suzuki Hayabusa" and I did see the engine you are talking about. Looks neat, but I don't think there is a midget organization in the US that allows a V8?

[wobbler]

Originally Posted by 8ball Whatever is in that bottom picture looks like a V6 to me. Only had 3 spark plugs and 3 exhaust ports on the side we can see. Not sure what kind of engine that is? I did do a google search for "V8 Suzuki Hayabusa" and I did see the engine you are talking about. Looks neat, but I don't think there is a midget organization in the US that allows a V8?

I'd look again! I can see 4 exhaust ports and definitely 4 inlets on the side you can see. I would say that the angle of the photos obscures some of the detail!

it is the h1 v8 it is not usac legal