Originally Posted by dirtywhiteboy Correction: The Gold Crown series (version 2) was started within the last year to give the owners of these now bastardized cars a place to run them so the $85,000 loss the ensued will be easier to deal with. They were initially called the New Generation Silver Crown cars and forced out the original pavement cars into the now defunct PRA Big Car series. Now if we go back into the history books we see the Gold Crown seires was tried before and guee what: It was a failure then and it will be a failure once again. This is definately not the right economic conditions to be starting something like this.

You have no idea what you're talking about and each post you make on this matter only serves to further your public ignorance.

Originally Posted by USAC Fan You have no idea what you're talking about and each post you make on this matter only serves to further your public ignorance.

The post facts that prove me wrong or stop stalking me. Trust me I ove having fans, but stalkers are completely different.

Wasn't there a division in USAC called the Gold Crown cars years ago? Yes or No

Weren't these cars (now referred to as Gold Crown cars) once referred to as the New Generation Silver Crown cars? Yes or No

Didn't these New Generations Silver Crown cars replace the original pavement Silver Crown cars on the Silver Crown schedule? Yes or No

Weren'tt the original pavement Silver Crown cars brought into the organization known as the PRA Big Car series? Yes or No

The people who are ignorantly arguing with usac14 and sc96 should really do their research.

If ANYBODY knows the facts of the Gold Crown vs. Silver Crown situation, those two men would.

And FWIW, usac14 STILL supports the Silver Crown series, so when you bash him, you're bashing someone who supports your precious, antiquated, obsolete race car.

Originally Posted by USAC Fan The people who are ignorantly arguing with usac14 and sc96 should really do their research. If ANYBODY knows the facts of the Gold Crown vs. Silver Crown situation, those two men would. And FWIW, usac14 STILL supports the Silver Crown series, so when you bash him, you're bashing someone who supports your precious, antiquated, obsolete race car.

WOW, for being a self described "USAC fan" you sure aren't very supportive.

Oh yeah, that was a horrible deflection of my post right above you. Can't find within yourself to answer the questions because you know that I am right and it just KILLS OU to have to admit you are wrong?

[sc96]

Originally Posted by Need For Speed 1- You calling people 'douches'.....= you being a 2- Then why do these 'new' cars look so damn much like the USAC version of the ******** mobile? 3- I'm 37, people writing letters (AKA 'texting') on a cell phone is dumb, sometimes a computer is useless, and there is a hell of a lot of people that shouldn't vote.

Answer to #2 The Division was taken over by Bruce Ashmore and he renamed them the GoldCrown. USAC does not control GoldCrown series.

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Originally Posted by dirtywhiteboy WOW, for being a self described "USAC fan" you sure aren't very supportive. Oh yeah, that was a horrible deflection of my post right above you. Can't find within yourself to answer the questions because you know that I am right and it just KILLS OU to have to admit you are wrong?

Why cant someone be supportive of USAC and still want to see the GoldCrown series be successful.The Goldcrown series is not trying to compete against USAC or any other division.

Originally Posted by sc96 Why cant someone be supportive of USAC and still want to see the GoldCrown series be successful.The Goldcrown series is not trying to compete against USAC or any other division.

Well sc96, you never fail to amaze me. If you had actually read my original post I highlighted the statement he made that I replied to as being unsupportive. Me being the nice guy I am I will post that statement he made so you can see what I am talking about:

precious, antiquated, obsolete race car.

Now, how is that supportive of USAC?

[Need For Speed]

Originally Posted by sc96 Answer to #2 The Division was taken over by Bruce Ashmore and he renamed them the GoldCrown. USAC does not control GoldCrown series.

So, in plain English, "The Division" that "was taken over by Bruce Ashmore and he renamed" "GoldCrown"....is the same sh1t nobody liked, in a different wrapper.

Seems the only difference you people want to argue about is 'Well, USAC don't have control of this division'.....



What is the 'lovers' of the ******** mobile's goals?

Do you think it is going to get American, oval track, open wheel drivers back to INDY where they belong?

Do you just absolutely hate the "antiquated, obsolete car"?

Are these fugly looking things the answer to the sprint and midget car counts, at places like Winchester and Salem too.... The pavement races of those series are struggling, maybe they should junk their cars, and make their own version of the ******** mobile?

Then when it flops, some guy with deep pockets could rename the same cars and say he's not associated with USAC, and then 'everything will be all better'

[Lucky161]

Originally Posted by USAC Fan The people who are ignorantly arguing with usac14 and sc96 should really do their research. If ANYBODY knows the facts of the Gold Crown vs. Silver Crown situation, those two men would. And FWIW, usac14 STILL supports the Silver Crown series, so when you bash him, you're bashing someone who supports your precious, antiquated, obsolete race car.

You would think so. However, sc96 instead of answering some questions that he should be able to answer easily, chose not to disclose his role as a builder. That hurts his credibility. Now if he can't or won't explain why this car that looks very much like a $25K sprint car cost over 3 times that much to interested parties on this forum, what are his chances of selling a customer?

[sc96]

[QUOTE=Lucky161;147545]You would think so. However, sc96 instead of answering some questions that he should be able to answer easily, chose not to disclose his role as a builder. That hurts his credibility. Now if he can't or won't explain why this car that looks very much like a $25K sprint car cost over 3 times that much to interested parties on this forum, what are his chances of selling a customer?[/QU You are probably the only one on here that didn't know I took over the Goldcrown cars that were previously STEALTH now called ROCK CHASSIS. IF you take the time to really look at the GC car and compare them to a sprint car you can see the differences are major. Our cars are priced a little different than the ASHMORE cars anyone who is wanting a quote on a car please send me a email and I will get it to you. rodneyweesner96@yahoo.com Also you need to look at the pricing compared to a Silvercrown car and not a sprint car Ido believe a beast sc car is around 40k so for starters lets compare apples to apples.

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Originally Posted by Need For Speed So, in plain English, "The Division" that "was taken over by Bruce Ashmore and he renamed" "GoldCrown"....is the same sh1t nobody liked, in a different wrapper. Seems the only difference you people want to argue about is 'Well, USAC don't have control of this division'..... What is the 'lovers' of the ******** mobile's goals? Do you think it is going to get American, oval track, open wheel drivers back to INDY where they belong? Do you just absolutely hate the "antiquated, obsolete car"? Are these fugly looking things the answer to the sprint and midget car counts, at places like Winchester and Salem too.... The pavement races of those series are struggling, maybe they should junk their cars, and make their own version of the ******** mobile? Then when it flops, some guy with deep pockets could rename the same cars and say he's not associated with USAC, and then 'everything will be all better'

Yes the GC car will get drivers closer to INDY without a doubt. NO I dont hate the SC cars I own one and they are a blast to drive are they antiquated compared to a GC car YES VERY MUCH SO. The SC cars need to keep on moving forward but loosing 1 mile paved ovals is not moving forward.The GC cars have the ability to run INDY its where the GoldCrown cars need to be.

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Originally Posted by dirtywhiteboy Well sc96, you never fail to amaze me. If you had actually read my original post I highlighted the statement he made that I replied to as being unsupportive. Me being the nice guy I am I will post that statement he made so you can see what I am talking about: precious, antiquated, obsolete race car. Now, how is that supportive of USAC?

Yes the Silvercrown cars are precious. Yes they are antiquated.Yes they are obsolete. But I dont see that as unsupportive the SC cars will be around until the traditionalist retire sadly sooner than later. I am HONERED that I was able to AMAZE you.

Originally Posted by sc96 Yes the Silvercrown cars are precious. Yes they are antiquated.Yes they are obsolete. But I dont see that as unsupportive the SC cars will be around until the traditionalist retire sadly sooner than later. I am HONERED that I was able to AMAZE you.

LMFAO, this is going to be beyond comical if it continues. You only view it as not unsupportive because if you did it would hamper your agenda that is pretty OBVIOUS.

Sorry but that is an unsupportive statement.

I'll be amazed once you start looking at things through clear glasses instead of the myopic view you have.