[racefan20]

I'm just impressed that they showed highlights from 3 different tracks on the TV news there. Only time that happens here is for the Hoosier 100 or a few at ORP.

[I Miss Manzy]

Originally Posted by racefan20 I'm just impressed that they showed highlights from 3 different tracks on the TV news there. Only time that happens here is for the Hoosier 100 or a few at ORP.

That NEVER happens here,EVER!! When NAPCAR comes to town [twice a year now],we get the stick & ball talking heads falling all over themselves to get an interview with whoever about whatever. Scott Pasmore on Channel 3,our local independent station,would always mention Manzanita and announce upcoming events,but he was one of us.He drove a 360 with the A.S.C.A. Didn't do half bad either! The rest of the media in this town didn't know Manzy existed until the closure was announced. Even then it only got half a mention.BUT I'M NOT BITTER!! Oh yeah,the Williams Grove thing. Looked to me like two wing cars both goin' for it on the white flag lap,just a racin' deal.

[Chuck]

The starter!!!!!!!!!

[LEADERS EDGE]

While I agree with Mike, I also know that even if I have the right away while crossing the street; if a car is coming at me I am going to do my best to get out of the way. Standing my ground will only get me hurt or in this case:on the wrong side of the retaining fence.

To call it a racing deal is not really true either because using that catch all; all crashes are just a racing deal. It was a poor attempt at a pass that should have been aborted early on.

[throb]

Originally Posted by streihawk8 In my opinion and from sitting in that same position more than once, You just can't take for granted that the black car is gonna lift. He is entitled to his part of the racetrack. If you can make the pass clean, ok. But this crap of the outside guy HAVING to lift to save his equipment is bullcrap. Someone has to spend alot of money as a result of an irresponsible pass. I grew up watching drivers that raced with respect. You race me clean, I race you clean. I could have taken out Jeff Gordon at the 1990 Hut Hundred on the last lap just like that. He didn't deserve to get taken out just for me to win. There was no way the white car was gonna make that corner without making the black car take evasive action. No respect for some one elses life. Mike Streicher

see.........thats the problem these days........NO RESPECT!!! if you want to save your stuff you have to anticipate other guys being totally reckless ********, thats whats going to get them into nascar......

[LittleRube]

.....did i miss something?

My observation....take the camera off of auto-focus!

[Brolzy]

I think the car on the top should have let him drift up then dove under and drove back by on the bottom of 4...the bottom of 4 at the Grove usually has some bite in it. That way you save the car AND your lead. It's so easy to second guess and give advice on a message board... :2:

[ThrottleHead]

Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell Easy to say tho when I am "riding the pine" right? Does Pine know about this Don??

That's just SO wrong Dave!

"Security to the message board... Security to the message board."

"Riding the pine" is a term that I heard used by someone whom I have an immense amount of respect for.... Her name will be withheld but she knows who she is! We have had discussions on this subject before! That is someone who sits in the stands and watches yet has the wisdom to know more about something (be it racing or circumstances surrounding teams) than the teams or drivers.

[slide22]

Its a racing deal... but he is still trying to make the guy in the black car lift. Saw Danny Smith do this all night at the 360/410 races at the Burg... and every time I've seen him at KC. For some reason some of these veteran drivers think they can do whatever they want on the track.