A very wise man once told me that if we throw the scoundrels out, we might not like the new scoundrels

[767]

i think people forget that humpy was instumental in indy cars at charlot. then debris went threw the fence and the irl left. Maybe Tonys plate is full and humpy is coming in to help. Hay ovalmister, you are so big on traditions, how many 500's have you been to?

[ThrottleHead]

Originally Posted by psullivan How many of the movers and shakers in big time motorsports actually drove a midget? How many have bolstered short track races with sponsorship dollars? Was Humpy Wheeler often spied standing by the fence at a USAC sprint car race? Any of you out there HARF members? Did you get a free ticket to time trials? Did you ever take home a gift from the banquet that was sponsored by IMS? Who gave Jay Drake a chance in the pro series? Consider these questions -- this could set the stage for an internal power struggle that can see the family relinquish control of the track and see the sale of the track to one of the outside conglomerates - that will take money and control away from the city and region - and if you want to see a money grab just wait and see. I would advise tempering your glee.

Well said, Pat! Tony is the ONLY link to the short track guys to the Speedway. With him gone there will be ZERO chance for these guys to get to Indy. I realize chances now are minuscule.... but it is still a possibility.

[Speedwrench]

Originally Posted by racefan20 The real rumor is that they are talking to Humpy Wheeler.....no I'm not kidding

The last thing in the world they need is that buffoon !!!

[Ovalmeister]

Originally Posted by 767 Hay ovalmister, you are so big on traditions, how many 500's have you been to?

My first Indy 500 was in 1974. I was 10 years old. I've missed two 500's since then. One for the birth of my daughter while living in Texas and one due to military service overseas.
My Dads' first Indy 500 was in 1935. (I still have his ticket stub). He didn't miss a 500 until he passed away in 2004.
Is that enough tradition for you?
David.

[AustinSprinter]

John!!...Nice to meet you,Areo at THAT/Kokomo!!...I'n Phx...went by to check Manzy today...all gates locked,looks same except for a couple rigs parked....posted inside is:guard dog on DUTY....Keep Out Employees Only!!....Sad deal!!........No sign of anybody there or in front at Cory's TeeShirt Shop!!.........
___________
Brucer'

[767]

Originally Posted by Ovalmeister My first Indy 500 was in 1974. I was 10 years old. I've missed two 500's since then. One for the birth of my daughter while living in Texas and one due to military service overseas. My Dads' first Indy 500 was in 1935. (I still have his ticket stub). He didn't miss a 500 until he passed away in 2004. Is that enough tradition for you? David.

your profile says your from minnesota, just makeing sure you had actually been to the race. I think they have done pretty well with tradition, but then again my first 500 was in 94. only missed 1 since.

[racefan20]

Originally Posted by AustinSprinter John!!...Nice to meet you,Areo at THAT/Kokomo!!...I'n Phx...went by to check Manzy today...all gates locked,looks same except for a couple rigs parked....posted inside is:guard dog on DUTY....Keep Out Employees Only!!....Sad deal!!........No sign of anybody there or in front at Cory's TeeShirt Shop!!......... ___________ Brucer'

yeah it was nice to meet you in person, will you be here for midget week or are you waiting until Sprintweek

[openwheelKT]

Miller usually has pretty good sources. His problem is that he likes to fire off when he first gets something instead of letting it play out a little bit....trying to "break the story". I'm sure SOMETHING is going on, but it doesn't sound like it is exactly as he reported....at least not yet.

I do think some changes need to be made. The event will never be what it once was regardless.

There will never be speed records set again...no way they let them go 237 again....just glad I got to see it in person.

Most of the infield party is gone....which is a same b/c I think there is a place for everybody there.

You can't build it and race it anymore. That is a big draw back. The big teams would win in that case, but they win now anyway so I say open it up. Here are the rules and if you can build a car and engine to get in, then great.

Those three things alone have taken away from it. There are several others that have too. Change might be a good thing. Hell, they tried to body slam Helio back into his car so he wouldn't climb the fence b/c TV didn't want to waste the time. Screw TV. The fans in the seats wanted to see him get out so I'm glad he did what he wanted to.

I still enjoy going out. The track was open and had cars on the track 12 days. I was at the track 12 days for all or part of each day. The die-hards still go, but the fringe fans are long gone.

Will be interesting to see what happens.

[terrehautian]

Nothing is official as far as I can tell.