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7/20/08, 9:21 PM   #11
Re: Red Flag...USAC or Tri State Speedway?
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Thank you Barney, i appreciate your honest opinion. I am a DD fan and i wasn't at the race so i like to follow the happenings of my favorite drivers and i can read your comments without blasting back like you see happen on here a lot of other times. Thanks again Barney. :thumb
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7/20/08, 9:44 PM   #12
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What about in the feature,when they had the early crash and all cars were restarted or pushed to the work area,except Dustin Morgan, his crew never even had a chance to look at his car to see if they could fix it and still set in the infield on the next caution but other cars were able to come back out laps down
We were wondering the same thing about why dustin wasnt pushed off the track...his crew was waiting in the work area for the car so they could fix it but he was the last car to be put on the hook and was never pushed up there...all that was wrong with his car was a flat right rear and his crew could have fixed it before the green.
 
7/20/08, 10:14 PM   #13
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I am curious as to why anyone would believe that the track has the responsibility to issue any penalty here, if warranted?

Tommy Helfrich is simply the promoter of the Sprintweek event, not an official. Once the event begins all calls or decisions regarding USAC races are the responsibility of USAC officials.

Think of it like a baseball umpire, once the teams take the field all the calls are in their hands.

I did not see the incident so I cannot comment about any penalty but if one was warranted it would no havecome from the track or the promoter.
 
7/20/08, 10:23 PM   #14
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Many of us on the backstretch did not get a good view of the Memmer incident because Speedway Man was throwing tee shirts into the crowd, causing a large number of people to jump up and obscure the sight line. I've never seen tee shirts thrown into the crowd during the time racing action was occurring on the track before. Bad decision!
On the other end of the spectrum, the Sandy's Pizza 50/50 girls sat down while the racing action was going on, so as not to obscure the view of the races. Kudos for being so thoughtful! :thumb
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7/20/08, 10:38 PM   #15
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Many of us on the backstretch did not get a good view of the Memmer incident because Speedway Man was throwing tee shirts into the crowd, causing a large number of people to jump up and obscure the sight line. I've never seen tee shirts thrown into the crowd during the time racing action was occurring on the track before. Bad decision!
On the other end of the spectrum, the Sandy's Pizza 50/50 girls sat down while the racing action was going on, so as not to obscure the view of the races. Kudos for being so thoughtful! :thumb
I never have understood why they allow speedwayblockerman to go through the crowd during the races, I understand during downtime, I wasnt going to bring it up due to the fact everyone here knows how I truly dislike Speedwayblockerman, but during a heat race last night I got nailed in the face by a sucker I'm guessing was headed behind me somewhere, when I looked to see where it came from, Speedwayblockerman was like 5 to 6 rows in front of me and throwing behind me, nary an apology, a wave, nod nothing. The 50/50 girls are always very considerate, either grabbing an empty seat, or ducking down on the stairs. I have kids, I understand the concept, I don't like him, he is rude!
 
7/20/08, 11:10 PM   #16
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:respect:Maybe this is YYY the good lord didn't let dave win the championship, or maybe it was the set up, because Dave can drive.:respect:
 
7/21/08, 12:28 AM   #17
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For those who are not so good at geometry, Dave made a right turn and did a 180 to get into the pits. As if that matters.

While it may not be right, that is basically the precedent. No one would have been penalized for doing the very same thing because it is accepted practice. Darland even had to negotiate cars still moving on the front stretch, so it's not as if everyone stopped immediately and he kept going. And the ruling simply put him to the tail for the restart, since he visited the work area under red.

I sure wish Mr. Scott would lose this hard-on for Dave Darland. He's obviously not going to be happy until Double D is banished from racing...
 
7/21/08, 12:42 AM   #18
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The Tri-State Speedway rule in the recent past is that ALL CARS must stop within a quarter lap of the red coming out and they enforce it if they are running the show. It is not accepted practice at a show that the track runs.
 
7/21/08, 2:27 AM   #19
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The Tri-State Speedway rule in the recent past is that ALL CARS must stop within a quarter lap of the red coming out and they enforce it if they are running the show. It is not accepted practice at a show that the track runs.

1/4 of a lap is extremely short to stop a full up sprint car. Hell it'd be hard to stop a Fidget in a 1/4 lap. I know the rule at the micro tracks is, stop when the red flag comes out in an "orderly" fashion, but do not pass the accident scene. As in don't slam on the F*ing brakes because the red is out. Slow it up, and don't pass the scene after the red is out.
 
7/21/08, 5:58 AM   #20
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A little off topic... but since flags were brought up...

Wasn't it nice having a FLAGMAN finally?:headbang Haubstadt was the only race during the entire sprintweek that USAC felt the need to utilize a flagman that knew what he was doing. I'm thinkin' the kid from Lawrenceburg would have been better in the 'stand...:doh:

Tom Hansing: :applaud:
 
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