[sc96]

One big problem with the Slivercrown cars is unless you know what they are they look very similar to a sprint car and your fan base is getting older same thing with the owners more are retiring than u have new ones getting in!!!! Why would a promoter book a higher cost division and get 15 cars when he can book sprint cars for a lot less and get 30 cars more cars means more fans means more money at the gate. So the writing is on the wall if they stay on the same path they will continue the path to ex series

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[gearguy]

Originally Posted by Jonr How many years did Indy Car not race at Milwaukee? How much money did the promoters of the Indy Car race lose over the years at Milwaukee? Does anybody know the agreement between the track and USAC? Was the track/USAC agreement dependent on one or the other bringing an event sponsor to the race? Does anyone know the amount of pre-sales for this race? Does anybody know the amonut of cars confirmed for this event? I will once again get on my silver crown soap box. If there was more demand for the product, there would be more supply. If every Silver Crown race was sold out, more promoters would be having silver crown races. The simple fact is that with all of the options for entertainment, Silver Crown cars are at the bottom of the list of what people want to see.

I grew up in Milwaukee during the 1960s and part of the success racing enjoyed was due to the PROMOTERS. The Marchese Brother PROMOTED their races all year long. Every bar and barbershop had a poster with the dates of the SEVEN to NINE USAC events they hosted at the mile. Every sports show, car show, or church men's club smoker had some "presence" of the racing events.
What has killed racing at The Mile, IMHO, has been the outrageous "license fees" NASCAR, CART, & the IRL took off the top. Even adjusted for inflation the entire "take" for the Marcheses over their tenure was probably less than the fee NASCAR TOOK for a single Busch Series race. I understand that they have overhead and officials to pay but a million dollars per event is out of line. Plus, they don't promote. They "organize" and hope a crowd shows up.

[Vukie]

The track is being rented by a stock car group for a races on July 8th and the 9th. On their website they had the 7th as a day for the crews to unload the cars and equipment. Maybe USAC couldn't come to a agreement to use the track on the 7th.

[Stealth87]

This is too bad. Was looking forward to catching this race and then shooting down to Wilmot for IRA sprint cars that night. One of the RARE 1 day, 2 track opportunities in Wisconsin gone

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[767]

outside of the average dirt track fan, what would attract you to any SC race? Lets take a look at advertising, Mostly radio and Newspaper. Lets look at these 2 advertising sources.

#1 Newspaper- Every Community has a different paper. So you have to advertise in multiple papers. Every Community newspaper is struggling, younger generation does not buy newspapers. They get there news for free on the net or on TV.

#2 Radio- what station do you advertise on? There are more stations today than ever before. How are you going to make your advertising sound different from the other forms of racing that are advertising?

Now the biggest problem with any advertising, What do you advertise? Normally one would say the drivers. Take the list of drivers for this year, walk out into the center of down town Indy, and see how many people recognize any of the drivers on that list. So names are not going to work. Maybe advertise the large car counts, well those are gone. Maybe you advertise this unique for of racing, like others have said the average Joe could not tell you the difference between a Crown car and a Sprint car. So what do you advertise?

I do hate to see the series go, because the racing has gotten better, but I'm afraid this ship has sailed. Only hope I can see is start paying the NASCAR guys to come race so you have something to advertise.

Aren't Springfield, DuQuoin and Indy horsetrack miles? In fact, Knoxville was originally built as a horsetrack half mile. And, wasn't Milwaukee originally a horsetrack?

The simple fact is that a promoter must be able to make money with the event he/she organizes. If they don't, the event -- no matter what division it schedules -- ceases to exist, or another sanctioning body is invited. USAC is the ONLY sanctioning body for these cars.

For a promoter to make money, he/she needs cars entered and butts in the grandstands. I believe a major part of what is wrong with racing today is it is no longer exciting to the young people, those folks who promoters need to fill the grandstands in the next generation And, part of that problem is race tracks running too many divisions. But, that's another issue.

The problem with Silver Crown is where is the sizzle? We can't keep living in the past.

So far in reading this thread, I know many reasons not to attend a Silver Crown race.

I have not read a single reason of why I should. With exposure like that, no wonder the series is struggling.

[miledirt]

A few years ago, DuQuoin drew 8,000 to a Silver Crown race. So to say that fans aren't interested is simply not true.

What is true is that decisions leading to lower car counts have negatively affected attendance.

What I have always wondered is why there isn't more promotion of the dirt mile silver crown races at the local Saturday night tracks?

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[dirtball]

Ever since they screwed up the camping world deal , things have went downhill!

There is not more promotion at Saturday night races because most Saturday night promoters don't want to tell their customers to spend money somewhere else. And, how many Silver Crown races now run on a Saturday night?

And, how many years ago was it that there were 8,000 people attending, and what has been the attendance recently?

I never said the racing was not exciting -- for us older people.

Compare the attendance at monster truck shows which has promotion and sizzle to its program that captures the attention of young people. Every level of racing is having a problem of a graying of the fan base.

Again, where is the sizzle to excite these young people who are the future of our sport?