Most on this board could care less how long a race goes on, but the problem is people with families and getting NEW fans (and getting them to come back.) There is a reason the NFL games are 60 minutes long with timeouts for certain plays and just a couple of years ago Major League Baseball was on speeding the game up big time. They had various research companies survey fans and the conclusion that they came up with was 3 to 3 and a half hours was just about the limit that people wanted to be at an event. Whenever I have taken a newbie to a race I always notice they get mighty restless after 10:30.
Originally Posted by Rogue-9:
This was the result of the king of non-wing being postponed one week to the same night as the patriot 100. This is not a normal event.
An ex post facto bad decision to combine the two.
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Best to just promise never to put a car on the track after midnight. What happened was clearly extremely poor judgement but get over it and make a significant intervention before the opposition mounts a decimating and irreversible campaign.
The fairgrounds here puts anywhere from 100-125 cars on the track every Saturday night with an 11pm curfew and they are done between 10-10:30 every week.
in the NJ/PA area, most all tracks have curfews. the way they are set up can vary from track to track....for example, the last race cant start past 11 PM.....or the show cant run past midnight, or, at one of the micro tracks that is in the center of town, the show is done by 10.
some towns impose fines for going past curfew. some its plain and simple....you dont go past curfew....period.
i have left williams grove after an outlaw show as the sun was coming up and one night after racing at lincoln, the sun was up when we rolled in.
one of the worst places as far as curfew (and back gate promoting) is accord speedway in NY. they run about a half a million classes and every night we ran the midgets there, they were curfewed out and the "regular classes" bitched up a storm saying the midgets were responsible for them not being able to run their races.
the point is.....if there is a curfew in place....ya just gotta go with it. you might piss off a few racers or teams but they will get over it. the neighbors might not and it only takes one to start a committee and then it snowballs to the point of unrealistic demands and possibly shutting down the track all together.
I'm sure if he had control over how many red flags and yellows, And new if he was going to have 80 cars or 180. He would be better able to tell you which one it would be. Not counting track and parking situation if he had 3.5" of rain the night before and was still trying to put a race on for us when others cancelled.
Originally Posted by mayor31:
Which is it Joe, midnight or 2 AM?
I'm sure if he had control over how many red flags and yellows, And new if he was going to have 80 cars or 180. He would be better able to tell you which one it would be. Not counting track and parking situation if he had 3.5" of rain the night before and was still trying to put a race on for us when others cancelled.
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No one cancelled that night because none of the other sprint car tracks were scheduled to run. So the large car count was rather predictable.
John Hoover
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There were extra modifieds there cause Montpelier had canceled. I'm not arguing it didnt go later then needed im just saying with extra time it took getting cars pitted cause of the large car count set them back. Part of the reason is also the racers fault for getting to the track late.
