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6/22/11, 5:07 PM   #11
Re: American drivers
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So, let me get this straight.... If I want to go to a race where fans are interested in American racecars, IndyCar is not the place for me? Interesting. I wonder why Chevrolet and GM are getting back in the mix if that is true. Isn't GM partially owned by the United States government? Why should the government get involved with racing if the fans don't care to see American race cars?
 
6/22/11, 5:12 PM   #12
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Isn't GM partially owned by the United States government?
Uhhhh....no. Gov't. loaned GM some money, big money. Which they paid back. Ahead of schedule.
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6/22/11, 5:36 PM   #13
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Danny, I think GM paid the loan amount back, but I think the US still owns a sizable chunk of stock.
 
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6/22/11, 5:38 PM   #14
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What the harm in letting a foreign driver or car owner live his dream? They are all human just like us Americans
What's the harm in letting an AMERICAN driver/owner racing in an AMERICAN series live his/her dream? You will notice that there is no where else in the world where foreigners are was welcomed as they are here. This is true for not just racing but business as well. Most countries discourage anything American except us spending/investing money and protecting or saving them. As far as racing goes use France and LeMans as an example, for YEARS and YEARS teams have been forced to take a French driver into their line ups and there has been many times a non-French team which is qualified for a starting spot has been tossed to make room for a French team. The Andretti/Mirage fiasco seveal years ago being a prime example. I'm all for others coming and racing with us (and more) BUT when the Indy 500 has more foreign drivers than American then something is wrong AND 11 Americans against 22 foreigners is not a reasonable split and I can promise wouldn't happen the other way around outside the USA.... sorry but call me part of the group that's proud to be American and tired of America and Americans not being the first priority and the most important priority.... America first, last and ALWAYS!
 
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6/22/11, 9:48 PM   #15
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Simple Answer: We (USA) cannot compete, and it's our own fault.
If this is true, then why do the Chinese choose our money as the safest to invest? Why do the best international students in their respective countries still come to the USA for formal, college-level training?

It's true the USA and Soviets aren't the lone superpowers anymore, but it's not like we're fading into oblivion like the Ruskies. It's a more competitive, multi-polar global economy, but one that can be taken advantage of due to the massive increases in consumption across the world.
 
6/22/11, 9:48 PM   #16
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spend your money road racing....
Awesome! I needed a good laugh! Thank you so much!!!

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If this is true, then why do the Chinese choose our money as the safest to invest? Why do the best international students in their respective countries still come to the USA for formal, college-level training?

It's true the USA and Soviets aren't the lone superpowers anymore, but it's not like we're fading into oblivion like the Ruskies. It's a more competitive, multi-polar global economy, but one that can be taken advantage of due to the massive increases in consumption across the world.
I'm pretty sure he meant to acknowledge that we can't compete on the race track. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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6/22/11, 10:02 PM   #17
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Before we put an American driver in an American car we better first check to see of the car is worth putting "Made in the USA" on. These ancient Dallaras they are driving in IndyCar was never what I was hoping for, and neither was the previous generations of Dallaras and G-Forces. Those hideous car designs they are proposing will not improve the situation.

"Can anyone enlighten me on this phenomena of apathy towards American made products?"

Look around. The other week I went to a 1/2 dozen places for coax cable and had to settle for cable made in Ch!na (Made by RCA). Levi Strauss, Wrangler GE and Hersheys is betting people will buy the name no matter where it's made. So far they are right. Why should racing be any different. I for one think we should change our ways.

I want to see more American drivers in IndyCar. I also wouldn't mind seeing Wheldon, Kanaan, Simona and a few other furriners racing among them.
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6/22/11, 10:13 PM   #18
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Ch!na refuses to buy up more of our debt and the largest holder of American bonds is dumping them. The American $ is hurting. Bad.

GM had $90million in debt written off. That left many Americans who purchased bonds they thought would be worth something holding a piece of toilet paper. Nice. Real nice.
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F*** Ch!na. That is all.
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6/22/11, 10:18 PM   #20
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