[SprintManDave]

Originally Posted by TQ29m Marv, a memory ck, looks like Sheldon was driving for Brewer, #14, they had that number before AJ made it popular, and was Or Ville driving his rear engine car, poor ole Boom Boom, watched him a lot at Paragon, and don't see Alan Barr on your list, think he kinda favored Paragon, or at least Jack, his car owner did, used to help them guys once in a while, when we weren't on the road. Bob

Bob, Sheldon was in the Brewer #14,saw him race in that car a lot back then,also,I think Orville was in the Howard and Aline Jackson 98.Thanks Marv for the memories.

[jim goerge]

Marv thanks for posting Do you know who Nordhorn drove for? At Haubstadt he drove a pink G2 car called the pink lady

[TQ29m]

Originally Posted by SprintManDave Bob, Sheldon was in the Brewer #14,saw him race in that car a lot back then,also,I think Orville was in the Howard and Aline Jackson 98.Thanks Marv for the memories.

Thanks, Dave, old Pete was a firm believer in "they ain't no substitute for cubic inches", so anytime he could, he had a Cadillac under the hood. his son, Jerry, continued the tradition, and now JL, says he still runs across something for a Caddy. Bob

[ShaneMugavin57]

Well you know I would enjoy this post Marv, Thank you. I imagine Dad was in the dreaded "Tin Indian" as people called his GTO. 4 years before I was born so I really enjoy the info. I was Lucky as I got to see Dad compete all the way into the 90's but these years intrigue me because of the legends. When I was younger we thought Bob Kinser was the guy who handed out trophies at Lburg because he was always in the picture with Dad but we were told that was the tradition to have the sprint and late model drivers get there pictures together. Theres one with with Dad and Gaines and a couple of others but usually it was Mr Kinser alongside him. Dad always says that after these two 100 lap features the track would try and suck your shoes off because it still had so much moisture. Try that around here nowadays in late June.

Marv don't know if you could answer but did any of the drivers do double duty? Likely suspects would be Ross Smith and Larry Moore as I see them listed in sprints. Also any idea what the late model times were? Also would be interesting to see what admission was for this as I can only imagine what they would charge for a show of this calibur today, This would be like having a USAC race and Lucas oil late models at the same show.

[Dirtfan]

Originally Posted by cowboyhar69 John Mugavin...one of the nicest guys you could ever meet...honored to call him my friend. For those of you who don't know John was one fine late model driver in his day!! Tim Wolffrum aka Cowboy

Never had the pleasure to meet John Mugavin,however Shane is one hell of a nice guy too

[Illini8]

Marv thanks for posting Do you know who Nordhorn drove for? At Haubstadt he drove a pink G2 car called the pink lady

I think the 85 car driven by Nordhorn was owned by Ross A Moore Excavating out of Bridgeport IL

[smith19]

used to use mugano glass in the 80's. thanks john.....

[FishBurger]

Follow ups:

jim goerge - I'm sure Illini8 is correct about the #85 car (Moore Excavating), but he raced and won in several other sprinters at Lawrenceburg including at least one of Dizz Wilson's and maybe later for Jim Walston. In late 60's into 70's with USAC Nordhorn drove, among others, Industrial Hardwood #71, Mauri Amerling's #4, and I believe he won his first USAC feature in the Neibel #6 owned by a VanWinkle out of Evansville. There are folks here at IOW who could fill in all the blanks and make corrections. Hope they will do so.

Shane - On that night, just as you suggest, Ross Smith and Larry Moore were double dippers. Ross drove a #21 car (which I remember nuthin' about) to 2nd quick time, but was out of the top 10 in the feature. Larry Moore was in a #99 stocker (same number on his sprinter) and was an early retiree in the feetch. Chub Schnebelt also ran both classes. He scratched in the sprint feature and ran out of the top ten in the stock show. In other news I believe Chub was married to Pete Rose's sister or maybe they just dated. I know Pete would show up at the track from time to time. Others in stock cars that night who had now and then rides in sprints included Pat Patrick, Chick Hale, and Earl Smith.

About the qualies, your quick timer Dad was in at 16.54 blowing away Ross Smith, 2nd at 17.39. Probably had traction control and one of them reverse thingy engines.

Haven't a clue about admission cost. Don't let this get out but back then I had a bud on the pit gate very adept at waving me on through. Roy Matlin, Shotgun and Joe Noppert would get me for back pay plus interest.

You realize your fendered questions will likely get me barred from IOW. Even I can't believe I kept that much detail on the stockers, especially with a cooler full of Burger.

I must be off......

[illiNOISE]

I just pity the scorers who would've had to work two 100 lappers in the same night. I don't know that carpel tunnel was a recognized condition back then, but they might have developed it in their writing wrist after this show.

[cowboyhar69]

Originally Posted by Dirtfan Never had the pleasure to meet John Mugavin,however Shane is one hell of a nice guy too

Dan, you are a 100 per cent right...John has a great family.

Tim Wolffrum aka Cowboy