[Topless77]

So your saying any retired snowbird driving a motorhome with airbrakes is required to have a class A CDL wheather or not they are towing a trailer. What about school busses now since they are only required a Chauffeur's license. If true this will hit the RV industry really hard and they are already hurting. Just curious?


Sorry was asking wildthing but forgot to hit quote

[wildthing1h]

Most school busses are what we call air over hydrolics which most cases don't need class a. Also anything with a total weight of 26000 pounds class required. The use of log books depends on mileage if your traveling anything more then 100 air miles or are returning back to start point within 12 hours log books not required. Most states will allow the snowbirds to slide. Once again aimed at vehicles weighing in or over 26 thousand sounds total weight. Most toters and trailers weigh in close to 80000 loaded. Also these new rules can be found online and have been and was on the news. Toters have to have the yearly inspection done trailer too.
Posted via Mobile Device not to sound like a mean guy or anything most people can tell the difference between a motorhome and a semi. Ask any truck driver and they will tell you its not right for the toters to not be required to have the yearly inspection done. Most of the new laws are due to the race teams and joe blows lawn business. Been reading my dot book and it states any vehicle weighing in or over 26001 pound you need cdl. School bus drivers are required by new laws to have cdl. Reason being you are for hire. Cab drivers are required to have it most companies don't push that issue.

[terrehautian]

I work at a tv station and this is the first time I heard of these rules.

[airplanegeek]

Bigger government folks. You gotta vote to make yourself heard.

[terrehautian]

I could make a comment about the last post, but I don't want to get political since it isn't allowed.

[Topless77]

Originally Posted by wildthing1h Most school busses are what we call air over hydrolics which most cases don't need class a. Also anything with a total weight of 26000 pounds class required. The use of log books depends on mileage if your traveling anything more then 100 air miles or are returning back to start point within 12 hours log books not required. Most states will allow the snowbirds to slide. Once again aimed at vehicles weighing in or over 26 thousand sounds total weight. Most toters and trailers weigh in close to 80000 loaded. Also these new rules can be found online and have been and was on the news. Toters have to have the yearly inspection done trailer too. Posted via Mobile Device not to sound like a mean guy or anything most people can tell the difference between a motorhome and a semi. Ask any truck driver and they will tell you its not right for the toters to not be required to have the yearly inspection done. Most of the new laws are due to the race teams and joe blows lawn business. Been reading my dot book and it states any vehicle weighing in or over 26001 pound you need cdl. School bus drivers are required by new laws to have cdl. Reason being you are for hire. Cab drivers are required to have it most companies don't push that issue.

Not a mean guy at all wildthing thanks for the info. I get the difference between the semi and the RV but most diesel pushers are over 26,000 pounds which makes the law really one-sided to me. Where can these new laws be found on the net. it just seems like another way for states to make money

[wildthing1h]

I'll have to check up and find the info about online i'm thinkin indiana.gov/dot. I may be wrong about that. I know what i have is in my rules and regulations put out by the federal motor carriers. And in some cases some laws are state laws so they can make extra money.
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I totally agree some laws are state laws so they can make extra money. As somebody in the heavy duty truck industry i look at the toters as semis and semis only i've always felt they should be required to pass annual inspections and etc. But again the racer in me is saying why do we have to do it all when we don't make any money. So i know i'll catch stuff for saying what i've said but when your a dot guy what you gonna do. I do dot inspections daily and the things that we are required to look for is nuts. But its in the safety of others.
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[Hawker]

As a Class "A" holder who has driver OTR, I am in firm belief that if you are 26,001 or higher, you should hold a CDL and have to comply with all of the rules/laws that govern that class of vehicle. There is a reason the rules/laws are in place and as wildthing1h has said, it is because of safety. I don't think that your average driver with nothing more than an operators license has any business going down Tehachepi, Vail or the Grapevine ect in something weighing over 26,001 with air brakes. I've done all of those grossed @ 80k with no Jake, try that sometime and tell me you didn't "suck up the seat cushion"...

[sc96]

We also run a small trucking company and we are use to the laws and regulations that go along with the industry. If you have a toter-home or pull with a dually get your CDL and D.O.T number its not that big of a deal the cost is fairly minimal. Its going to save you some major head ache time. And allot of money. Your local BMV office has all the info you need study the book get a physical take a written test get your permit then take a driving test you will also need to perform a pre trip inspection as part of your driving test. It sounds like allot but its not that hard to do and its the same stuff you should be doing every time you get behind the wheel. I will say the air break test is the thing that most people fail. Most D.O.T inspectors will cut you some slack if you are at least trying to comply with the laws. As for the 2 toter's that got towed to impound I was by that lot this morning and the are still there.

[Hawker]

Originally Posted by sc96 We also run a small trucking company and we are use to the laws and regulations that go along with the industry. If you have a toter-home or pull with a dually get your CDL and D.O.T number its not that big of a deal the cost is fairly minimal. Its going to save you some major head ache time. And allot of money. Your local BMV office has all the info you need study the book get a physical take a written test get your permit then take a driving test you will also need to perform a pre trip inspection as part of your driving test. It sounds like allot but its not that hard to do and its the same stuff you should be doing every time you get behind the wheel. I will say the air break test is the thing that most people fail. Most D.O.T inspectors will cut you some slack if you are at least trying to comply with the laws. As for the 2 toter's that got towed to impound I was by that lot this morning and the are still there.

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