[Pat O'Connor Fan]

Originally Posted by Al Pierce Come on over and enjoy the last part of the season at LPS.

DARN IT! So many IOW posters have mentioned positive things about the "new and improved" version of LPS in various threads that I am just gonna have to drag my tired old carcass out of my rocking chair and hitchhike my way over there.

[Bill Gardner]

Danny, Thanks for the article... It was great talking with everybody on Saturday... One comment from the night that still makes me chuckle... Folks, I am the largest chemo patient Danny Burton has ever seen. Unlike so many, I can handle the raw truth... Danny, I'm just fat.

Take care my friend.

[Pitstooge]

No. LPS will not be getting any of my money. SCORA has 2 more non-points races scheduled at Kamp in Boswell. I believe that we will be racing there instead. We (our racing team) supported LPS every week for several years, driving the 2 hours each way. VCS is an easy 45 minute tow from our home base in (many should be able to figure out the driver after this one!) Ludlow, Illinois. Perhaps some of you out there that raced on a weekly basis at VCS and attended the drivers meetings can verify this to be the truth: Joe Spiker, to the very end, lied to us at every opportunity. Even the last week (rain out), they guaranteed that racing would continue the next week. When LPS was purchased, Joe said in the drivers meeting that "absolutely nothing will change. We are behind VCS 100%". From that point, it took 3 weeks for VCS to move to Sunday, then chaining the gates shut. I honestly hope that Joe will go far with his dream track in his backyard. I just don't see many of the VCS regulars supporting LPS after the treatment we got from Spiker Promotions. For us, Paragon seems much more inviting.

BTW, I am not hiding behind anonymous posts. My name is Bill and I have been with the #72 car from Ludlow, IL since the mid '80's. If you see us at a track near you (won't be LPS though!), please come and say hi. Would love to talk!

[SHORTBUS]

Originally Posted by Pitstooge No. LPS will not be getting any of my money. SCORA has 2 more non-points races scheduled at Kamp in Boswell. I believe that we will be racing there instead. We (our racing team) supported LPS every week for several years, driving the 2 hours each way. VCS is an easy 45 minute tow from our home base in (many should be able to figure out the driver after this one!) Ludlow, Illinois. Perhaps some of you out there that raced on a weekly basis at VCS and attended the drivers meetings can verify this to be the truth: Joe Spiker, to the very end, lied to us at every opportunity. Even the last week (rain out), they guaranteed that racing would continue the next week. When LPS was purchased, Joe said in the drivers meeting that "absolutely nothing will change. We are behind VCS 100%". From that point, it took 3 weeks for VCS to move to Sunday, then chaining the gates shut. I honestly hope that Joe will go far with his dream track in his backyard. I just don't see many of the VCS regulars supporting LPS after the treatment we got from Spiker Promotions. For us, Paragon seems much more inviting. BTW, I am not hiding behind anonymous posts. My name is Bill and I have been with the #72 car from Ludlow, IL since the mid '80's. If you see us at a track near you (won't be LPS though!), please come and say hi. Would love to talk!

WE ALL KNOW AL THOMAS & SON. GREAT FOLKS.KNEW THEM FROM MY OLD PIT STEWART DAYS BACK IN THE 80s - 90s.I THINK MAYBE JOE JUST GOT TO MUCH ON HIS PLATE.GIVE HIM A CHANCE .

[mowerman]

It was one of the highlites of the summer in the sprint car capitol , finially meeting MR, Bill Gardner. Thank you Bill for a great site. Bob and Monica.

[Andrew S. Quinn]

Originally Posted by mowerman It was one of the highlites of the summer in the sprint car capitol , finially meeting MR, Bill Gardner. Thank you Bill for a great site. Bob and Monica.

Agreed. I think Bill was a bit overwhelmed by meeting everybody at once!

[ByronMack]

Originally Posted by Bill Gardner Danny, Thanks for the article... It was great talking with everybody on Saturday... One comment from the night that still makes me chuckle... Folks, I am the largest chemo patient Danny Burton has ever seen. Unlike so many, I can handle the raw truth... Danny, I'm just fat. Take care my friend.

Where was everyone sitting? Also, was Butch Wilkerson there? I thought I saw him top of grandstands down by turn 4, but not sure, was kinda in a hurry going to restroom to make room for more beer. lol
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[Dirtfan]

Originally Posted by Bill Gardner Danny, Thanks for the article... It was great talking with everybody on Saturday... One comment from the night that still makes me chuckle... Folks, I am the largest chemo patient Danny Burton has ever seen. Unlike so many, I can handle the raw truth... Danny, I'm just fat. Take care my friend.

Bill,we were there also, would have really enjoyed visiting with you. Hopefully next time.

[Danny Burton]

The conversation that inspired part of the article took place near turn one.

I didn't see Butch. He may have gone to Twin Cities, a shorter drive for him.

[Motormasher]

Originally Posted by racefan20 Dave its been neglected so long that its gonna take awhile to fix. I think if by the middle of next year that surface is going to be a lot better than it is now, at least I hope so!

Hey Racefan20,
I took the great big piece of mud clod that got shoved up in my radiator and set it out in the sun all week long, I got the idea today to water it and see how long it would take to penetrate all the way to the center and fall apart, kind of like what they do to the track on race day. Its been 5 hours and the clod is still hard as a brick however the outer layer about 1/4 to 1/2" is disolving away. If the track does the same thing(and it does) the moisture never really gets down into it, therefore when we wheel pack it we don't do much more than just roll up the mud into clods similar to how bricks are made.

The track needs someone to work it with a tractor and disc or harrie to get the moisture down into it so it will stay all night long and not "roll up" when we start racing on it. If it gets packed tight while its moist it won't roll up so bad.

Thats my theory anyway, thought I would share it with everybody.