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Ovalmeister (Offline)
  #11 8/18/09 5:51 PM
Originally Posted by sc96:
Well as we have all seen with the steady decline in Silvercrown races they need to do something and at least tracks are asking to have the Goldcrown cars come. With the Goldcrown cars being able to run larger tracks it just adds to where USAC can run.
Getting excited about turning left AND right Rodney?
David.
Hubie (Offline)
  #12 8/18/09 5:55 PM
This can be real, can it?

What a POS. Why don't they just clone a KK500 Roadster and be done with it? "For drivers wanting to advance to the famed Indianapolis 500"!!!!

The "500" is toast, devalued beyond saving. It will take radical thinking and YEARS and YEARS to bring it back. This is not the answer.
sc96 (Offline)
  #13 8/18/09 10:40 PM
Originally Posted by Ovalmeister:
Getting excited about turning left AND right Rodney?
David.
I have 3 of them bring a engine and you can run one. Bruce has some great things going on and this stuff is going to be real exciting in a year or so.
Ovalmeister (Offline)
  #14 8/18/09 11:04 PM
Originally Posted by sc96:
I have 3 of them bring a engine and you can run one. Bruce has some great things going on and this stuff is going to be real exciting in a year or so.
I have an old 1200cc mini sprint engine in the attic, will that work?
David.
sc96 (Offline)
  #15 8/19/09 7:43 AM
Originally Posted by Ovalmeister:
I have an old 1200cc mini sprint engine in the attic, will that work?
David.
Take the motor out of your wifes car.
racephoto1 (Offline)
  #16 8/19/09 8:01 AM
With the huge crowds at Oswego ,ORP,and Iowa, for the Champ Car race, do you want to tempt fate again ? The last time they tried it it almost killed them.
AP64 (Offline)
  #17 8/19/09 8:36 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they are still going to run the current Champ Cars as a seperate series. I don't think they are going to replace the champ cars with the Gold Crown Cars.
sc96 (Offline)
  #18 8/19/09 8:55 AM
Originally Posted by AP64:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they are still going to run the current Champ Cars as a seperate series. I don't think they are going to replace the champ cars with the Gold Crown Cars.
You are correct the Goldcrown div will NOT replace the silvercrown div. The Goldcrown div will also add tracks not currently run by the silvercrown div. So there are NO loosers in this deal.
ashmoredesign
  #19 8/19/09 9:06 AM
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Originally Posted by racephoto1
Shouldn't the grill insert look like the Capitol building in DC.
HAHAHAHA. That's GOLD!
I guess i don't understand the joke here. I own two new Chevy Auto's, a Chevy Malibu and Silverado truck, i also own a new Honda Accord. The Chevy is a much better car than the Honda, and it was cheaper to buy and is cheaper to insure. The Silverado is a much better truck than any of the foreign owned trucks, and i drove them all before purchasing the Chevy.

We are building great cars here and the Auto companies need our support to survive and prosper. I believe they are fighting back and the cars they are producing is testiment to that. I grew up in England and during that time the British poeple didn't support the British car industry or British Motorcycle Industry. Consequently now all the manufacturing in the UK is foraign owned. You do not want that to happen here. Please Don't believe the propaganda which tries to convince you that it makes no difference who owns the companies, and that it is more important to keep the workers employed, the money does end up going out of the country.

sorry I got a bit off tangent on this thread, but you hit on something that I and a lot of other people in this Country are very passionate about. Bottom line is we have great car companies here in the USA and race car series should promote that as best they can.
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ashmoredesign
  #20 8/19/09 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AP64
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they are still going to run the current Champ Cars as a seperate series. I don't think they are going to replace the champ cars with the Gold Crown Cars.
You are correct the Goldcrown div will NOT replace the silvercrown div. The Goldcrown div will also add tracks not currently run by the silvercrown div. So there are NO loosers in this deal.
Rodney is right here and another point that is worth clarifying, which has come up in this thread and is also in the Kevin Miller thread, is the following.

USAC is doing nothing to promote the Gold Crown Championship. In fact it's quite the opposite. They are looking to see if it will survive on its own. The series investment is solely from the current group of Gold Crown car owners, nothing from USAC, and it will only get going by the guys who own these cars, not USAC. So please don't blame them for this revival, they wanted to sweep it under the carpet as if nothing had ever happened. We as a group couldn't do that. When you have guys like AJ Foyt and Roger Penske involved with a series and these guys believe what you are doing is a good idea, then it drives you on. These two car owners and the entire group of the rest of the car owners were encouraged to be involved by NASCAR and the old management of USAC. The Gold Crown Championship does not replace any other series out there. It is intended to add something to racing and gives another option for race drivers and car owners to climb the ladder.

When we talk about the design of a car in any series there are some some interesting points to consider. Although Gold Crown will be a premier series it is also a ladder series car. This means it will introduce elements of the next step. And not all the elements. Then a driver can retain knowledge of the last series and can also participate in the last series at selected events while particiapating in the next step. The Gold Crown will have drivers from Sprint car and Silver Crown as it has front engine, upright seat, similar level of grip in the turns and HP level, so has similar levels of wheel spin. It is symmetrical, has radial tires, reduced stagger, runs on road courses and speedways, has a two speed gearbox and so has features of the next step which is NASCAR and IndyCar. Therefore you can have drivers from those series running competitively with the regular Gold Crown drivers. this was witnessed when the series did run and JJ Yeley and Carl Edwards put on a great show at some of the events. Take this to the logical conclusion and you have a good training platform for drivers and teams wishing to progress to the next level.

The Gold Crown car layout was well thought out, it worked as a driver development program, and we had 21 cars in the last race that it ran. If it weren't for that last fact this Gold Crown project wouldn't have got this far. We aren't asking any you to own one, drive one or sponsor one. In fact we really don't want you to come to a race if you believe it is a waste of your money. We do however want you to let us develop the idea and stop bashing it before it has a chance to show what it can do. This is not USAC saying this, it is the guys who got involved in the first place.

Thanks
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