those cars are up north and show no sign of coming south tho. cost wise there a very cool class to race and a very competitve one

Somebody asked for a dead horse?

Running both a crate motor and open motors, the motor itself is better on the pocket book, but still the class in itself is very expensive like any form of racing. What we have ran into with the crates are the non motor rules. Tires being the biggest issue. There are 4 sanctioning bodies to race with in our area. ILMS, NeSmith, UMP, Fastrak. All 4 of them have their own tire rule and Some have shock rules. In my opinion the crate class would very much increase in followers if the tire rule were either opened up or all the same. Then, going on Friday to a track that you can run the $800 shocks and on Saturday going to another track that you have to run $150 shocks. It gets tough sometimes. I still think the fewer the rules the easier it is on the wallet in the long run.

The ILMS is averaging around 20 cars a night with the "better" tracks pushing 30. That is up significantly from last year when they were getting 10-15, and the year before that 5-10 cars.

Read these responses and you have your answer. For some reason if you mention CRATE MOTOR or something similar people seem to freak out. SCORA has a good thing going but the traveling hinder's it a bit, I attended the SCORA event at Osgood and spoke with a car owner and he told me that he would run SCORA more if it didn't travel so far..as he was in southern Indiana.

He said he ventures to lburg sometimes but only when there is a smaller car count expected as that is really the only way they can make a show. I wonder how many other's are in the same boat, it's not hurting car count if they aren't coming anyway.

Crate Motor sealed, No cockpit adjustable shocks, Open tire rule....Would it work?

If you do something like this you need to keep the rules fairly open, so you can run other places as well. Like run lawrenceburg's rules, except has to be a 305 engine. Don't do like Sharon Speedway does and have mandated shocks. Dumbest rule ever.

I know you are worried about cutting up the car counts, but there could be alot of people like me that would go out aand buy a car, bring in a new car count. I am interested in SCORA, but way too much traveling. I would say just make it a crate 350, open tires (no grooving), open shocks(all chassis are different and require slightly different setup).

waynesfield was talking about a new sprint series next year. i think a crate motor deal was what they were talking about. anyone know?

A look at the history of short track, open-wheel racing would tell us that one of the main factors contributing to its often near demise and cyclical popularity has been the over-proliferation of various clubs, tracks, and sanctioning bodies vying for the same audience and participant pool. There should always be those series which are feeders and development places of new talent, but there also has to be an elite strata to attract the new or casual fan for the sport to prosper. In short what we have IMHO is more than enough series, but what I feel is needed is a few big money, high prestige events for non-wing racing to return to its proper place as the most competitive form of sprint car racing. Not more series to further divide the fan, driver, and car pool.

More clubs and classes are not the answer, and as mentioned earlier, a crate class is hard to start up. Here in California we have too many clubs which contributes to very low car counts. In this tough economic times the concentration needs to be on getting the existing cars to show up, not adding more classes with 10 cars.