LaVern Nance passed away several years ago. The company is no longer in business to the best of my knowledge.

Billy,

Not taking anything away from what you said there, depending on who you talk to, the consensus with numerous teams is other than aesthetics the cars are basically "copies". There is no consensus as to what the original is..... some argue they are Maxim copies.... some argue DRC copies..... some said Stealth copies with refinements, a few have even said they are copies of J&J from back in the 90's. Who knows.... I know I don't.

Again, no slight to any manufacturer.

Since you work for DRC I am sure you can point out the differences. I for one would love to know differences between the makes. As a fan they look very similar but just minor aesthetic differences.

If this is something proprietary to DRC as far as differences, you can tell me at the track or in PM. I genuinely would like to know. If it is proprietary it will not go outside of the discussion.

Every down tube car out there now is still a copy of a 87 Gambler. Just like Clayton did when he switched chassis told the builder about the Motor heights, tube height, Radius Rods, ECT.. Cages are different bodies are different but the guts of the car are the same.

Thanks unclebuck, I thought that was the case but didn't remember for certain.
Ol' Laverne had a good run with Sammy Swindle back in the late 70's or early 80's!


That is a fact!
The only thing important (other than safety) are the pick up points and overall suspension geometry.
They can look pretty funky or an absolute copy doesn't really matter, if the math is done right.
Although I do remember an outlaw owner/builder, that shall remain nameless, that built a chassis so flimsy he junked it because he said, "it don't matter what bar I put in it there is so much chassis flex, damn thing will never work, cut it up boys" it looked like a standard chassis, it was just real thin wall tubing and very little cross bracing. Never know if you don't try!

Reminds me of the qualifying motors they used to blow up in the wings. Thin walled car is just silly and way to dangerous. But I am not surprised.

O rly?:wink

Shain Matthews is the only one I remember running a J&J without the lid in Ind. recently but pretty sure it's a winged car.

DRC Chassis has been voted the "Nonwing Builder of the Year" by the National Sprint Car Hall of Fame for the last three years. Anymore questions?

J&J is a good chassis and I would buy one any day. Jack has been in business forever and doesn't cut corners on safety. Donny Shatz has ran one for years and Gary Hayhurst ran one with & without a wing and always won.

Top quality chassis.:thumb

We bought a J&J from the Fox Brothers 7 or 8 years ago . It was one Brad was driving with pretty good success.

Someone posted a link to the U-tube video of Terry Pletch's win at Terre Haute recently. In the feature line up they showed that about half the field were running J&J. When John Godfrey got Stealth rolling pretty good, a lot of guys in the Indiana area switched to Stealth. It was pretty much the same as the J&J and Stealth was closer to this area. Stealth reigned supreme until JJ and the Twister revolution. When Stanbrough started dominating in the DRC everyone just had to go back to 4-bar cars. Right now it seems that Maxim has the most cars out there. Builders will play with tube heights/lengths/offset, and motor height/driveline length but always come back to the same basic design.

It's the same as it's always been... whatever is winning is what the masses want. The teams that have it together can win with almost anything.

Thanks for commenting about the look of the car. I had fun doing the wrap and knew everyone would be glad Steve and Brad chose to go back to it.