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767 (Offline)
  #11 12/22/08 7:51 AM
Karma, you are an idiot. If the final caution had not come out everything would have been fine. The air leves did not get bad until the very end. I really aplaud the Rumble staff. There was not a single problem with air quality until the very end. Ok lets see here about the evacuation, ice comeing, race over, fans getting on the road asap. Sure didn't see the Toledo fire dept, escorting anyone out. I think the bigger story of the night was great racing action and not a usac official in sight!
767 (Offline)
  #12 12/22/08 8:19 AM
Must also say, with the weather and time of the year, there was a pretty decent crowd. i'm sure some will look down on this show because it did not have a huge car count, but it ended up being a very good show because the drivers were there to race! So many shows you get maybe 4 or 5 drivers running hard lap after lap with the rest of the field riding around. These guys were running hard for every position. Several young faces out there running hard. Much less ruff driveing than we are used to, makeing the show very good. I can not wait for Ft. wayne. Let me fill you in on what should be a heck of a battel. In the 600's normally Mr. Ivy in the 02 is dominate, but he will be the first to tell you he got lucky Saturday. 3 cars broke to give him the win. This sets up a very good battel going into next week. Cars to look out for Ivy 02, 711, 72 Rudoff, 2 Morgan, 75. next week should be the strongest 600 field we have seen at ft. wayne. It will be very interesting in the national midgest with the new munchikins out there. Several veterans looked like young kids again when gaining that confidence back as they strap into the new machines. Ft. Wayne is going to be exciteing!!!!!!!!!!!
Seadog (Offline)
  #13 12/22/08 11:05 AM
Originally Posted by Tony Barhorst:
Here is what actually happened. The fire marshall's have always been very active with their meter's at indoor events in Toledo...They were monitoring the air again Saturday...we were fine Friday.

The fire marshalls gave their order just as the white flag waved. Eight seconds later..the race was over...fans left the building happy..and we had NO complaints...no problems.

The article is misleading...by a reporter who came to talk well after it was over...

I have ideas on how to deal with the exhaust however in the future...and...improvements will be made.

The Seagate Centre's exhaust system is not as efficient as Fort Wayne's.

One big change could help...it would be great if all the cars had starters.
A couple of our push trucks were putting out quite a bit of exhaust.

NOT ONE OUR DRIVERS HAD A PROBLEM, THEIR REFLEXES WERE TOP NOTCH IN A WILD NIGHT OF RACING.

This is a big over reaction. That being said..improvements will be made.

I rented 7 large fans to put under the doors...and the quality was great all day..except at the end....where it did pick up.

I walked...with and watched the meters all day. One they gave the order..it went out over the scanner...alerting a sleepy news room to a story that can fill space.
I don't think the starter thing will happen - been there, done that. But here's a suggestion (?) ...get push trucks that are flex fuel vehichles. Since they can run on 85% ethanol, it may help some. If that's the case already, then never mind.

Just a dumb idea from a dumb native Buckeye.
Tony Barhorst (Offline)
  #14 12/22/08 11:23 AM
Seadog,

Buckeyes tend to think "outside the box" for new ideas. Your suggestion is just what I have in mind....The ATV thing..won't fly....

I just spoke with a hotel manager..the fire marshall in Toledo is extremely active. They do inspections all the time with businesses...and they charge the business to do it.In fact..I was ordered to have the fire marshall there...they had 4 firemen with meters...I had to pay them $1250 just to have them all over me all weekend.

Like I said..In Columbus, Indy at the Dome...we get inspected...but not to that extent. These cars burn alcohol..and Monster Truck shows...Motorcycle events do the same...methanol fumes do not cause problems like gasoline does...but they don't get that here.

The air quality WAS great all day...but when we ran our features last night..the intensity did shoot up.

Keep in mind...at our events...I allow fans to come and go as they please...So...you can get out if you want...and enjoy Michigan Intl. Speedways booth...Hooters....

One new item we had last year...Gemcar.com electric cars will have a display...I need to get him to push...we may have a test.
767 (Offline)
  #15 12/22/08 11:30 AM
look at it thins way, atleast people can not fault you for safety with them there Ya eyes started watering the last few laps, but for the small building I was really surprised. 2 thumbs up on keeping the show moveing. Started at 7 was out of the parking garage at 10.seen some very good racing, and got a good jump on the road before it started freezing. You deffinatly did a better job than the Ohio State dept. Was deffinatly a slippery drive.

would love to find a youtube video of the last gocart feature. The last lap turn 4 pass was awsome.
Wendy Atkin (Offline)
  #16 12/24/08 3:50 PM
Don Moore did a nice job earlier in this thread pointing out what a nice venue the SeaGate Centre proved to be. He deserves some credit, too, for helping to make the experience unique for fans.

He lined up local high school choirs (Toledo Bowsher on Friday and Maumee on Saturday) to sing the national anthem, and Maumee also performed several holiday songs. From what I could tell, few, if any, of these kids had ever been to a race -- certainly not an indoor one.

For those who don't know, Don is a composer and music publisher who has received numerous honors in the music industry. He also is owner of the No. 10 midget driven by Geoff Kaiser in the Rumble Series.

For those of you on IOW who do not know him personally, you should introduce yourself sometime. He is a very interesting guy who loves to talk racing and meet fans. The same goes for Geoff Kaiser.
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