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Kirk Spridgeon (Offline)
  #11 9/29/08 5:14 PM
Darland was really the only one who completed 40 laps. Which means those cars a lap down really only completed 38. Hunter completed 39.
illiNOISE (Offline)
  #12 9/29/08 9:21 PM
Originally Posted by chillyrn:
But I also thought that if you caused a caution - ie, you spun - (whether it was on the initial restart, or with at least a lap down), you went to the tail.
True, but it would be to the tail of the cars on the lead lap. Even when the lapped cars are positioned where they were on the track on the last scored lap, and the driver charged with the yellow is physically behind the lapped cars on the reline, provided he was on the lead lap when he caused the yellow, that driver is still considered ahead of the lapped cars in terms of position.
Al Soran (Offline)
  #13 9/30/08 7:53 AM
Interesting thread this has turned into. In '99 I ran a WoO show at Joliet. Our iron block motor didn't have a chance against the Kinser's, Swindell's, etc., but we went for the experience and the hopes that we might slip into the back of the A, and live a life-long dream of going 4-abreast.

Well, we were running a strong next-to-last in the B-main and were one lap down when Dollansky spun bringing out the caution and the checkers (a few laps short of the scheduled amount of laps, we assumed due to time constraints). It seemed strange to me and the guy who was running ahead of me, I'll call him Duke, that Dollansky got the last transfer spot. Duke was still running, the first guy one lap down, when Dollansky brought out the yellow/checkered. The Outlaw officials weren't inclined to spend any time explaining it to me and Duke, and we kind of figured it was a ******** kind of deal since his name was Dollansky, and we were Schmuck and Soran. So, we watched from the stands as Dollansky and the rest of the regulars rolled around the track 4-abreast, and proceeded to shred for 30 laps without us. We drank our beer, signed a few autographs (a real ego booster), loaded up and headed home (had a flat tire on the trailer to add insult to injury).

After giving it some thought though, since Dollandky was a lap ahead of us when the yellow checkered fell, we figured he would have gone to the back of the lead lap, and still been ahead of us. As should probably be the case in this fellows instance.
Bullringsarebest
  #14 9/30/08 11:37 AM
Originally Posted by Kirk Spridgeon:
Darland was really the only one who completed 40 laps. Which means those cars a lap down really only completed 38. Hunter completed 39.
It took a while for it to sink in ,but I think I know what you are saying.In simple terms..1-8 completed 40 laps.Hunter completed 39 and a quarter laps.The guys who were a lap down to the leader only completed 39 laps(at the stripe)They do not get the chance to pass Hunter(since their race is over at the stripe).DD never lapped Hunter since his race was over at the line,also.This is the simplest way for me to understand.Dont Blame me.Everybody knows promoters are'nt the brightest creatures anyway:kookoo.Still waiting on what happened,but I'm pretty sure they made a hasty decision(since the race was over at the checker)
Kirk Spridgeon (Offline)
  #15 9/30/08 11:46 AM
Understood. I was just wondering if there was another way of looking at it.

They probably should have brought that up at the pay window, since it really doesn't do much now...thanks for jumping on here, though! Hope you made some money on the deal and want to schedule a couple for next year!!
Bullringsarebest
  #16 9/30/08 12:30 PM
Originally Posted by Kirk Spridgeon:
Understood. I was just wondering if there was another way of looking at it.

They probably should have brought that up at the pay window, since it really doesn't do much now...thanks for jumping on here, though! Hope you made some money on the deal and want to schedule a couple for next year!!
Well..as of now the rumor is I'm runnin wing sprints next year.So when they let me know what I'm doing I will pass it on.:kookoo:rolling:confused::rolleyes:
RR>LR=LTO (Offline)
  #17 9/30/08 1:11 PM
You have got to be Mother Effing kidding me!!!!!!! If that's the worst thing you guys saw at the racetrack then you are blind! How do you spin, TWICE and get your spot back? HORRIBLE rules. I've never seen anything like it! I will not be back. Stick to stock cars and mid-budget wing sprints. Cool racetrack............bad scorers.

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RACEADDICT
  #18 9/30/08 1:45 PM
:doh:Jacksonville has always been if you spin on the intial start you get your spot back. No surprise there. So what if there scorers made one mistake, I have tried to score before, how easy do you think it would be to score 22 sprinters who you are unfamiliar with for 40 laps on a small little bullring with about 25 or 30 laps in a row green with lapping and racing going on every where?????

Over all great show and great talent there. Let us know Billy because all of us Non-wing guys really enjoy running with you. Hope you did well Friday.
illiNOISE (Offline)
  #19 9/30/08 4:52 PM
Originally Posted by RACEADDICT:
: So what if there scorers made one mistake, I have tried to score before, how easy do you think it would be to score 22 sprinters who you are unfamiliar with for 40 laps on a small little bullring with about 25 or 30 laps in a row green with lapping and racing going on every where?????.
I agree. While scoring is not exactly brain surgery, it's not as simple as some might make it out to be.
Bullringsarebest
  #20 9/30/08 4:53 PM
Originally Posted by RACEADDICT:
:doh:Jacksonville has always been if you spin on the intial start you get your spot back. No surprise there. So what if there scorers made one mistake, I have tried to score before, how easy do you think it would be to score 22 sprinters who you are unfamiliar with for 40 laps on a small little bullring with about 25 or 30 laps in a row green with lapping and racing going on every where?????

Over all great show and great talent there. Let us know Billy because all of us Non-wing guys really enjoy running with you. Hope you did well Friday.
Few changes,nothing major.We are still working on a date for the banq. somewhere in Nov.keep panties on:Oucks should be all lined up at the banquet.
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