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ThePurple73 (Offline)
  #11 6/29/12 1:17 PM
It's not a stupid idea at all...actually very sensible.

You could have the track watered, teams would be there, but start hot laps at 8, then time trials, then run off the races. Possibly not as many support classes.

Im the type that feels I get my monies worth out of 4 sprint heats, a B and and A feature and done. If the whole event last 2 hours, great!

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Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell:
I know some Indiana tracks use additives on their tracks, We are all natural, because we have to be, all the water for the city comes from underneath the track itself. Its pretty obvious who uses additives and who doesn't. I feel we do fine being all natural. Just wish daylight was'nt around so late.
Thanks, Dave
You can advertise as a "green" race track, quite modernistic.
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cmakin (Offline)
  #12 6/29/12 1:27 PM
Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell:
I know some Indiana tracks use additives on their tracks, We are all natural, because we have to be, all the water for the city comes from underneath the track itself. Its pretty obvious who uses additives and who doesn't. I feel we do fine being all natural. Just wish daylight was'nt around so late.
Thanks, Dave
Lawrenceburg isn't on surface water? Interesting.

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Originally Posted by ThePurple73:
It's not a stupid idea at all...actually very sensible.

You could have the track watered, teams would be there, but start hot laps at 8, then time trials, then run off the races. Possibly not as many support classes.

Im the type that feels I get my monies worth out of 4 sprint heats, a B and and A feature and done. If the whole event last 2 hours, great!

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You can advertise as a "green" race track, quite modernistic.
The problem with starting at 8 down here is that they still run ALL of the support classes and are as lazy about starting at 8 as they are when they are supposed to start at 7. Heck there are time when we are supposed to start at 7 and don't throw the first green until after 8.

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Dave Rudisell (Offline)
  #13 6/29/12 1:37 PM
[QUOTE=cmakin;288287]Lawrenceburg isn't on surface water? Interesting.[COLOR="Black"]

If you notice all the wells on the road along the backstetch, those are the pumps that the city gets their water from. No surface water. the track sits on top of a large underground river. Also some of the local businesses get their water from the same area for production of soda, and such. Also the reason many distilleries opened up plants here 100's of years ago.....the water in these underground rivers is really good clean water.
Have a great weekend!! Dave
captrat (Offline)
  #14 6/29/12 2:19 PM
Originally Posted by HARFprez:
As the title states, probably a stupid idea, but it will be fun to throw it out here and let it get beat to death. Has any track operator ever thought of going the other way with track times, meaning, as opposed to starting earlier and finishing earlier, but in the heat and dust, to maybe start everything later, at dusk, so that by the time the racing starts it will be cooler and the moisture will be coming back up on the track? Needless to say, racing that starts at 9 instead of 7 ends at midnight instead of 10 but i can't see it hurting attendance during these 100* days. Probably only Friday and Saturday night tracks could do this, and again, only those in rural areas (otherwise the neighbors will complain). So there it is, stupid idea of the day, now i'll let the piranhas out...enjoy. bob
Starting later would be great, especially for track conditions during DST.
17B (Offline)
  #15 6/29/12 3:01 PM
www.claycountyspeedway.net
has ............... done this and more..........ice pops..........
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HARFprez (Offline)
  #16 6/29/12 3:19 PM
...durn there Dave, here in the hills if we gots us some natural underground streams we put us up some stills, maybe you picked the wrong buziness! Seriously, i knew this would be fun, Bill needs to find another little character showing a "can of worms", cause we can sure open some up in here. I can't believe track owner/operators still have any hair left, hot...cold...wet...dry...? i'ld be pullin' it out by the handfull. Maybe we find us an out of the way race track, not close to any neighbors, and have us a MIDNITE MADNESS" race night. All us geezers can grab that afternoon nap and be ready to raise h&ll from midnight to 3 am, kinda like one of those infamous 4 crown races. i think i missed my callin' bein' a sign guy...should have been an idea man! PRAY for rain, just not on race night, see ya, bob

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...and be carefull bad mouthing that D.S.T. stuff, the guvment knows what time we're spose to be on, and they're readin' every one of your posts, so watch out, any way, the cows like the sunshine at 9 pm. bob
SHORTBUS (Offline)
  #17 6/29/12 3:20 PM
Dave,
i think you got that mixed up with the septic system j/k
illiNOISE (Offline)
  #18 6/29/12 7:54 PM
Originally Posted by ThePurple73:
It's not a stupid idea at all...actually very sensible.

You could have the track watered, teams would be there, but start hot laps at 8, then time trials, then run off the races. Possibly not as many support classes.

Im the type that feels I get my monies worth out of 4 sprint heats, a B and and A feature and done. If the whole event last 2 hours, great!
Let's take this a step farther. When it's this hot, how about we start about 8:00 or 8:30 and use transponders for multi-car at a time qualifying, then forgo heat races and just use the times to line up the feature. (plus a semi if needed.) Maybe add 10-15 laps to the feature to account for the lack of heat races.

I'm not sure how many fans would show up if tracks did this, but I know I wouldn't mind being able to wait until 7:00 or 7:30 to get to the track when it's 95-100 degrees.
Jonr (Offline)
  #19 6/30/12 8:18 AM
As someone else has stated, it really depends on the track. If the track has a good history of running an efficient program, then starting a little later in better. However, there is deffinitely a limit on how much later you could push it. 8:00 would be the latest, and even that is going to start having a negative impact on your gate.

Everyone in life has different factors that motivate them. For me, I have to be at work every day at 6:30am. Thus, I am getting up everyday around 5:15am. My 5 year old wakes up every day of the week around 6:15am so even on the weekends my family is up early. Thus, for me it is very hard to stay up to the wee hours of the morning. Thus, late nights would not work well for me.

The other thing that you have to look at is when do the familys with young children leave the track. I know my kids are not old enough to last the entire night, so they stay home, but many people bring thier kids to the track. These people start heading for the car around 8:30 - 9:00. If you don't start till 8:30, you will never get them there.

The idea may be better than what we have espically if it saves the dreaded farming session in the middle of the night, but it is not a cure-all solution.
The Old Coyote (Offline)
  #20 6/30/12 9:56 AM
Here is the solution. We get the General Assembly to not only repeal the Daylight Savings Time law but enact IST, Indiana Sprintcar Time. Indiana Sprintcar Time would move all clocks in the state back two hours from where they presently are. Nothing else really matters, what could possibly be more important than sprint car racing.

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