I'm another old guy that really enjoys these post...thanks!!

Tim Wolffrum aka Cowboy

Sooo, here on IOW you're an "old guy" known as "Cowboy" but elsewhere you're a dashing young fella known by scores of lovely ladies as "The Love Doctor".......or do I have you confused with someone else?

I recall sprints hanging from the the trees outside turn three at the Haute and AJ spittin' nails. I guess that was before the insurance weenies got a hook in.

Fishburger,

I hope you and Brian hook up many times to help relive some of the greatest times in open wheel history. Being a transplant from the Illini state, I missed a good portion of the 60's & 70's along the USAC trail. I still get to hear stories but between the two of you guys, you bring them back to life. Thanks for all the info from everyone.

Also, I hope your granddaughter finished up the season well. I know that you are struggling with your Hoosiers but you have to remain patient. Mr. Sampson did a number on the Cream & Crimson and it will take some time before they are contenders again. Give Coach Crean another couple of years and then we will see how this is shaking out. He has help coming.

My dad shot the only known 8mm footage of the Chuck Hulse flip (from beginning to end) at New Bremen that day.

In the footage, Mario caused the crash, when he ran into Bob Wente, blowing Wente's LR tire. Almost instantly, Hulse is there, and ran over Wente, and started the end over end flips.

Dad said he was the first one to reach Hulse's car, (and because of the times, he held his movie camera behind his back...figuring Hulse was hurt, or maybe even killed) As he got close, he said he could hear Chuck yelling "GET THIS SON OF A B1TCH OFF ME!"

I can't remember Dad ever having much good to say about Mario.......

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Must have been a different car than the one he destroyed in 1&2 at Eldora, the day his helmet came off!

Marv...guilty as charged...that would be me...but don't tell those gals I am that old!!

Tim Wolffrum aka Cowboy

Chuck used to drive the Beck Construction car (yellow #10). I saw Chuck tumble that car at Terre Haute. Wasn't hurt that day but the car was on top of him. Was that the car he got hurt in at New Bremen?? The Beck team also had a red # 11. Stan Bowman drove it to a win, once (Eldora?). I seem to recall Bobby Unser drove it a few times, too??

needforspeed...i do remember the helmet coming off. he jumped out picked up the helmet and walked away.