I agree with Cosworth18. We took two of our old midgets to the MVVR events in Oskaloosa and Knoxville Iowa [6/24-6/25/10] and had a great time. The only down side was the wire wheeled Ranger powered sprinter getting on its head.

Another "trend" was "vintage" cars that really weren't vintage. I have nothing against guys building replicas of long gone stuff but building a brand new 1980s midget/sprint so you can go fast doesn't seem right.

If you are going to start a vintage club you need to go to a MVVR event and see the right way to do it. They are having a 3 day meet in Oskaloosa in September. Friday is test & tune. Saturday & Sunday are regular events on the beautiful 1/2 mile at the Southern Iowa Fairgrounds.

We need more vintage events of all kinds.

Got any pictures of that Ranger, been many moon's since I've seen one, even longer since I heard one! Thanks! Bob

To Mac Miller : Just for your information i have raced before, but i didn't enjoy it nearly as much as the Nostalgia cars. M y first ever ride in a nostalgia car was at the Duquoin mile and i drove slower than every single car on the track even being passed by a legend car with a small horspeower Honda motor while i was in a 700+ hp sprint car AND as far as me being a 20 year old kid i have much more respect than any other other kid my age as far as i am concerned, my dad is 70 years old and has taught me respect and i believe in that. He is 70 and he ALSO wants to go fast. Just because i am young doesn't mean i am stupid so maybe you should filter your thoughts because as far as im concerned you are being quite ignorant. I grew up around hot rodders, old racecar drivers, and a lot of good old southern guys and they have taught me well. I didnt mean any disrespect to you sir, but your hostility to this "WANNABE" racer is asenine.

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To everyone else: THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT!

Last time i went to a car show isn't a classic car any that is older than than 25 years old so wouldn't my dad's early 1970's sprint car be just that, a Vintage car? Am i wrong in saying just because a car has a cage it can be considered a Vintage car? Gearguy i absolutely agree with you our champ car just looks vintage yet it is almost brand new the frame is even up to date with the standards for usac. It is ridiculous to make a car just for that purpose.

I completely agree. Obviously it would be tragic for the driver to die in a cageless vintage car, but equally tragic to destroy a car with that much history, which has survived all these years. Unless it's a replica of course.
David.

For me, the biggest 'turn off' on this whole vintage oval thing is the nature of conflict that comes with it. "What is vintage", "how fast will we go", "do we get a free barbeque dinner", etc. The monday morning promoters always have a better plan , in their minds of what should be done, or should have been done.

I'm just 42 years old, I fell in love with the caged , cheapass supermodifieds of the NCRA- and I ain't stopping. Time marches on, and the new group comes in. We all like or love the cageless cars to some degree- but that does not mean we are obligated to own one. I would take a Watson or a Meskowski Champ Dirt chassis though.

But arrogance does not set well with me at all. I am too busy looking for the 'whisp' in the air that takes me back to the feeling I had as a little boy. I know everyone else is too, but the diversity of cars is broad, and we have got to stick together if this thing is ever going to go to the next level.

Here is what I want-- Laps in my car, no stress or unneccessary hassle from anybody unless it pertains to safety. Safety is no joke. AND, should someone want to display ONLY their never fired offy restoration, I would like for them to have fun doing so without hassle from the 'on-track' guys.

This **** is supposed to be about fun, and right now here in Oklahoma and North Texas, that is getting hard to accomplish.

Show a little respect to each other.

And yes MACMILLER, I do like your cars. Always have.


Brian Satterwhite

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This in no way implies that cageless cars should be parked. That would be ridiculous.