Originally Posted by sceckert:
Joe Cowin, Of course it's "just your honest opinion", and all, but your mindset regarding this is about as myopic and overstuffed with empty rhetoric and sloganeering as can be. What's next? "We fight them off the track, so we don't have to fight them ON the track"?
He's "made all of racing look bad" ? Please! Shane Hmiel's fan-interaction, personality and passion for racing actually do a great deal to make racing look good.
He's "had far more chances in racing and pissed all over them"? Really? Far more chances? He has been doing exceptionally well with the chance he has right now. Have you noticed him pissing on something that none of the rest of us has?
"There's 2 spoiled rich kids running USAC"? So that's what is afoot here? The Spoiled-Rich-Kid Theory? Banned Substance use is the province of those damned "spoiled rich kids"? We'll make a note of that. Weed them out before they get into the ranks of the 100% pure racers.
He has "failed totally off the track"? Totally, huh? Utterly, completely, irrevocably a failure. And here I thought he seemed like a swell guy, and all this time what I was witnessing was a grinding un-redeemable failure. Goes to show, I guess...
He "should be serving his punishment on the sidelines"? He is serving on the sidelines. The sidelines of nascar. Which are overstuffed with others hoping to get back into the game, while keeping active however they can. He is staying active better than most.
And, finally, the perfect old dusty relic of resistance: "What kind of message are we sending the little kids who come watch?" Frankly, I have my own idea of the "message" you are sending to whatever little kids you have in your social circle. It is a message of intolerance, anger, mistrust, prejudice and loathing. Bitterness--in a word. Particularly as almost no "little kids" at a race (that haven't been specifically prepped by the adults with influence over them) knows jack about Hmiel's off-track past, anymore than they know which drivers they watch are from what state, what beer they prefer to drink, or whether they've cheated on a wife or girlfriend or like to kick dogs.
You are entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to read it. I am entitled to dissect it. I am entitled to give it No Credibility.
Well I'll try to reply....
Fight them off the track and not on the track, ummm, ok, you seem to think failing 3 drug tests is ok so let him race without being tested still?
He's a swell guy and good with kids? Really, does he work with anti-drug programs? Does he speak out about his mistakes to those kids and others? Is he helping change bad kids to good? Does he take part in DARE programs?
Pissed all over his chances, yes he has, he had 3 of them in NASCAR and what did he do with all 3? Kind of hard to ignore the truth on that score.
Spoiled rich kids, yeah there's too many of them, most tho are pretty good kids and it's a shame a couple bad apples make the rest look bad, but fact is, they do. Getting busted 3 times by NASCAR make you look bad, getting busted at an amusement park while trying to run over a security gaurd in front of families makes you look bad, and yes, makes all of racing look bad.
And yes he should be sitting on the sidelines, sorry, but it's not like he didn't have plenty of chances to start with, again 3 of them and he is suspended still from one of the biggest motorsports orgs in the world.
And yes it does look bad to kids, sorry but it does, just like it looks bad when a football player shoots people in a parking lot of a strip club or a basketball player starts a fight in a stadium. Sorry that you seem to think it's ok for a 3 time positive tested person to not be called on it, and pointed out, hopefully so the kids DO NOT follow his examples.
So now your opionon as been dissected and found lacking. I prefer to root and respect guys like Dave Darland, Casey Shuman, Jon Stanbough and others who truly deserve it and have EARNED it. I'm all for giving someone who deserves it a second chance, but a 4th chance? Scott free?