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dsc1600 (Offline)
  #11 11/14/22 11:02 PM
Marks won most of his money racing with the WoO and won 2 of the 4 biggest races. You’re not going to do that every year. Sweet had a lousy year for a champion and won only 5 races and according to a WoO press release made almost $600k in total winnings. Not too far from Marks absolutely career year.
dsc1600 (Offline)
  #12 11/14/22 11:13 PM
Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
And other than a few trips, Neither ran 2500 miles across country three times, and were probably home 280 days vs other way around.
Macri was local and dominated Port. It’s fair to say he made most of his money in PA. But Marks went to Florida, Texas, Missouri, Iowa, Ohio, Indiana and clearly made most of his money outside of PA.
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Jonr (Offline)
  #13 11/15/22 10:07 AM
Originally Posted by chrismattlin:
Top Winged 410 money winners 2022:
#1) Brent Marks $642,721
#3) Anthony Macri $412,998

I could go on, but I don't have all day.
Yeah, Never let facts get in a way of a good argument. Please read this article about WOO Sprint car team payouts.

https://worldofoutlaws.com/sprintcar...nings-in-2022/

For the first time in the 45-year history of the World of Outlaws, four full-time operations earnedmore than a half-million dollars with the Kasey Kahne Racing #49 ($595,075), the Tony Stewart/Curb-Agajanian Racing #15 ($582,765), the Big Game Motorsports #2 ($545,615), and the Stenhouse Jr. / Marshall Racing #17 ($504,525) leading the way.

Beyond the top tier, teams are still earning record numbers throughout the field with nine operations reeling in more than $300,000 this season. The Jason Johnson Racing #41 ($487,565), Shark Racing #1S ($433,275), Shark Racing #1A ($353,175), Roth Motorsports #83 ($345,625), and CJB Motorsports #5 ($307,525) were next in line with the Series.
DJlives (Offline)
  #14 11/15/22 10:56 AM
Prize money is only one metric. What is total benefit of being a platinum member? What are the differences in tee-shirt sales. Sponsorship possibilities? What are difference in costs? What do you prefer in terms of lifestyle? It's more complicated than prize money
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B99 (Online)
  #15 11/15/22 3:08 PM
Add $200K to Marks total as champ, if you haven't already. And not all of the money he made was on the WoO tour. You don't have to run all the tour to make the most money, you can run select races on the WoO tour and run others and still be at or near the top of the money won list.
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dsc1600 (Offline)
  #16 11/15/22 4:25 PM
Originally Posted by B99:
Add $200K to Marks total as champ, if you haven't already. And not all of the money he made was on the WoO tour. You don't have to run all the tour to make the most money, you can run select races on the WoO tour and run others and still be at or near the top of the money won list.
Huh?
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staggerman (Offline)
  #17 11/15/22 11:28 PM
Plus those Woo numbers don’t include tow money, point funds, and their bonuses they pay to their Platinum Members.

Everyone talks about all these big paying shows guys could run not being a Woo member but remember only 1 guy a night makes that money. Everyone else behind the winner is not making as much. If 5 guys drop off the Woo trail not all can make Marks and Macri money if not winning.
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Kart#51 (Offline)
  #18 11/16/22 4:40 PM
Has anyone done the math on what it costs to run the whole series as a Platinum member vs. what they are making? I would bet a 6 pack Marci and Marks netted more money than all but three outlaw guys.
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staggerman (Offline)
  #19 11/16/22 11:06 PM
Originally Posted by Kart#51:
Has anyone done the math on what it costs to run the whole series as a Platinum member vs. what they are making? I would bet a 6 pack Marci and Marks netted more money than all but three outlaw guys.
If you think Marks and Macri’s budgets to compete are not par of that of a Woo team you are mistaken. Both have full time crew chiefs and crew members, same cost of engines, tires, etc as any Woo team when they put the trailer down to race. Marks made the bulk of his money winning big Woo races he traveled too and Macri won some big PA All Star and Woo shows to bump up his number.

Yes, is the cost of travel higher heading to California twice and everywhere else, yes. There is tow money to compensate towards that with Woo. Listen to Winged Nation’s interview with Brian Carter from WRG, I found it interesting
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dsc1600 (Offline)
  #20 11/17/22 9:48 AM
The other factor that is interesting is you have to find a minimum of 3 crew guys that want to live the Outlaw life for little pay and not much time off. I honestly think there would be more teams out there if this wasn't an issue.
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