[Bill Gardner]

Chuck, this doesn't award points based on the amount of races. It awards point only to top 5 finishers. A driver can compete in 154 races but if they don't finish in the top 5 they will not receive any points.

As for rating competition... without using a bunch of formulas... that would be hard to do. I will go ahead and say it, a Paragon weekly show doesn't have the same caliber of drivers that you will find at a USAC show. However, most guys running Paragon only race there, while the guys running USAC race many other places.

If someone wants to put together a list of 2010 top 5 finishers, I will gladly input that data to see how it works out.

[Dick Monahan]

I like the idea and will be happy to contribute. One thing to consider would be to make winning worth a little more; at least 13, maybe 15.

I had thought about this kind of thing in the past. I'd like to add bonus points for beating to drivers; i.e., extra points for finishing ahead of drivers who are ahead of you in the table? And, dropping points if you finish behind? Of course (the reason I've never done it), it gets complicated.

[Bill Gardner]

Yeah... we can make this very complicated.

Awarding 13pts to winner... everything else remains the same.
Rank Driver Points Behind Wins Top 5
1 Dave Darland 107 0 3 11
2 Brady Short 105 -2 6 9
3 Chris Windom 105 -2 4 10
4 Jon Stanbrough 93 -14 0 11
5 Brett Burdette 71 -36 3 7
6 Coleman Gulick 57 -50 1 7
7 Shane Cottle 52 -55 1 6
8 Casey Shuman 49 -58 2 5
9 Braylon Fitzpatrick 48 -59 2 5
10 Jon Sciscoe 43 -64 1 5

Awarding 15pts to winner... everything else remains the same.
Rank Driver Points Behind Wins Top 5
1 Brady Short 117 0 6 9
2 Dave Darland 113 -4 3 11
3 Chris Windom 113 -4 4 10
4 Jon Stanbrough 93 -24 0 11
5 Brett Burdette 77 -40 3 7
6 Coleman Gulick 59 -58 1 7
7 Shane Cottle 54 -63 1 6
8 Casey Shuman 53 -64 2 5
9 Braylon Fitzpatrick 52 -65 2 5
10 Jon Sciscoe 45 -72 1 5

We want drivers to race at our tracks... so giving the guy who wins more allows someone to race less and still be rewarded. I hope you understand what I mean.

This will definitely get a sponsor. Too cool. I didn't get it at first, but then I saw the spreadsheet!!!!!! Beast!!!!!

[Bill Gardner]

USAC races in Indiana will be included. They're races are a part of Indiana Open Wheel racing

Originally Posted by Bill Gardner USAC races in Indiana will be included. They're races are a part of Indiana Open Wheel racing

I see what yer sayin!

[AustinSprinter]

Sounds good Bill!!....count me in for $20.00.......My PayPal Trans.# @23:34 6/21
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[openwheelKT]

Originally Posted by Bill Gardner Kevin, I'm using a spreadsheet to do this... It's setup for a 154 races and can easily be increased. All that needs to be done is input the top 5 finsihers from the various races. The main problem I found is that not all the tracks use the same names. There is always misspellings... I found that the tracks using Speednetdirect are the most accurate and consistent. I got several hours in creating this... I really have nothing better to do.

Cool Bill, sounds like you have the data part covered. Was just throwing out my services if needed. Let me know if you ever need any help on that end. I like your points system. As you said, you can make it very complicated, but I don't see a need. As you said, some shows won't have the same caliber of drivers, but in most of those cases, those drivers only run that track. So the cream will rise which is the point. I also think USAC races should count because most of the guys run local stuff too. There aren't enough races for a "USAC only" driver to win. You would have to run other sanctions and local shows to have enough points so it's fair to me.

I'm still in for whatever the final program shapes up to be.

[Jerry Shaw]

It's a great idea, IMO. Maybe sponsor money, added to what we come up with here, would make it easier to reach a number that would make a nice little points fund. Like the one you proposed. Stick by your guns, on the points system you designed, though. Everybody always has a better idea, after somebody already comes up with something. Like they say, "A camel is a horse that was designed by committee."

Jerry

[dirtnonwingfan]

Absolutely great idea!!! Bill, run it however you want. I'm in. Just let us know where to send the $$$$$.