[SUPERDUKE]

Originally Posted by itsanonwingthing please check your calendar, it's not 1979. There are many things (probably thousands) in this world that are not the same as they were 31 years ago. Just a crazy thought!! if you are not happy with any of these said things, stay away or distance yourself from them!!!!!!!! Please

if you read my post i know what year it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by apexonephoto east bay raceway park - winter national preliminary,tampa, fl date of race: 2/7/1979 a feature 1: Wolfgang, doug (20 - trostle) 2: Williamson, kramer (41 - karwaski) 3: Carson, shane (6 - french) 4: Pitzer, paul (29 - weikert) 5: Beaber, johnny (3x - kemenah) east bay raceway park - winter national preliminary,tampa, fl date of race: 2/8/1979 a feature 1: Anderson, johnny (21 - woodruff) 2: East, bob (4c - cook) 3: Wolfgang, doug (20 - trostle) 4: Kinser, steve (11) 5: May, dub (28) east bay raceway park - winter national preliminary,tampa, fl date of race: 2/9/1979 a feature 1: Shuman, ron (721 - mecom/kalb) 2: Kinser, steve (11) 3: Anderson, johnny (21 - woodruff) 4: James, lee (15) 5: East, bob (4c - cook) east bay raceway park - winter nationals,tampa, fl date of race: 2/10/1979 a feature 1: Wolfgang, doug (20 - trostle) 2: Anderson, johnny (21 - woodruff) 3: Ferkel, rick (0 - daugherty) 4: Shuman, ron (721 - mecom/kalb) 5: Kinser, steve (11) 6: James, lee (15 - pettet) 7: Williamson, kramer (41 - karwaski) 8: Carson, shane (6 - french) 9: East, bob (4c - cook) 10: Brooks, mike (12 - annett) 11: Marshall, bobby (19) 12: Smith, randy (43 - graham) 13: Pitzer, paul (29 - weikert) 14: Cook, duke (6 - siebert) 15: May, dub (28) 16: Mack, don (4 - howells) 17: Daniels, ronnie (38) 18: Gray, terry (10) 19: Smith, robert (3) 20: Saldana, joe (70 - snell) 21: Beaber, johnny (3x - kemenah) 22: Nichols, rick (32 - haines) 23: Kinser, bob (65 - shields) 24: Allen, bobby (1a)

sorry about getting old! Please give all results for the whole week? Where did i stat in the a main?

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Originally Posted by jordanblanton do you know what the purses were at the time? I punched numbers into an inflation calculator (yeah; i'm a dweeb). The rr wasn't too far off ($80 in 1979=$234 in 2008, although that obviously doesn't take into account the tire's longevity). The engine cost definitely isn't close though ($5000 in 1979=$14,643, again, not taking into account legitivity). Do you have any purse numbers from back then, or any insight as to how many races a rr lasted in '79 vs. Today, and how long engines were lasting in 1979 vs. Today?

check with speed sport news they have all results

[apexonephoto]

Originally Posted by SUPERDUKE if you read my post i know what year it is!!!!!!!!!!!!! ---------- Post added at 06:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:22 PM ---------- sorry about getting old! Please give all results for the whole week? Where did i stat in the a main? ---------- Post added at 06:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:22 PM ---------- check with speed sport news they have all results

Sorry Duke, thats all I could find. I'm too poor to afford NSSN. Shipping to Canada doubles the price of any subscription....

[SUPERDUKE]

Originally Posted by apexonephoto sorry duke, thats all i could find. I'm too poor to afford nssn. Shipping to canada doubles the price of any subscription....

ok thanks!

[apexonephoto]

Originally Posted by SUPERDUKE ok thanks!

Here is the night before Eastbay

Volusia County Speedway (1/2d),Barberville, FL
Date of Race: 2/4/1979
View Race Notes
A Feature
1: Barr, Allen 2: Cook, Duke (6 - Siebert) 3: Anderson, Johnny (21 - Woodruff) 4: East, Bob (4c - Cook) 5: Mack, Don (4 - Howells)

[darnall]

I have to agree with Duke...the sport was much better off when a hardworking auto mechanic or someone of similar economic status could afford to field a sprinter. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to go to your GM dealer, buy a 350 long block, add an oil pan, injector and mag and be able to keep up motor wise??? I wish today the cost versus purse would encourage owners to hire drivers based on merit instead of how many decals they can plaster a car with.

Here is something to think about regarding car count in Florida this year......

32 cars at the USAC race, plus around 40ish cars at the ALL STARS/WOO races. Right there shows around 75 top shelf sprinters in Florida (410 cars). I looked quickly and didn't see any of the same cars running winged and nonwinged but may have missed a few.

Then lets add in another 50 plus cars who are going to run the king of 360's race next week. Out of those 50 figure 25 of them also already ran 410 races so now our Florida sprinter total is over 100 cars. However, many of these guys use a different car for the 360 and the 410 so you could say there were more like 115 different sprinters racing in FL this season so far.

OOPS!! Almost forgot the TBARA winged asphalt guys...what will they have, 20ish cars???

Now we are up to the 130 car count in Florida "JUST LIKE" in 1979 with one exception....FREAKING DIVISION!!!!!

Winged cars, non wing cars, 410s, 360s, Dirt cars, asphalt cars....blah blah blah... THERE'S YOUR PROBLEM!!!!

Used to be sprint car racing, same car with or without the wings, same car dirt vs asphalt with a few exceptions. Now there is no such thing a a sprint car race.....you have to have some other word or number in front of sprint car. And sadly, there are just enough deep pocket guys in each of them to keep me and you from being able to have a legitimate shot. Also sad is the fact that the type of sprinter requiring the least amount of motor budget (non wing) is the type that runs for the worst purse and gets the least number of races booked. It would still be feasible for a middle class guys to field a winning non wing car just about anywhere but the winners share of most races wont even cover fuel, tires, rig fuel and pit passes after the driver gets his 30-50%.

So whats the fix???? Throw the wings in the trash, go back to M&H racemasters, chuck all the cokpit adjusters??? Can't do that, all the rich people would quit..haha

"If you are not happy with any of these said things, stay away or distance yourself from them!!!!!!!! PLEASE"

Keith,
It's tough to distance yourself from something you love.

Jim Morrison

[mscs20]

Originally Posted by darnall I have to agree with Duke...the sport was much better off when a hardworking auto mechanic or someone of similar economic status could afford to field a sprinter. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to go to your GM dealer, buy a 350 long block, add an oil pan, injector and mag and be able to keep up motor wise??? I wish today the cost versus purse would encourage owners to hire drivers based on merit instead of how many decals they can plaster a car with. Here is something to think about regarding car count in Florida this year...... 32 cars at the USAC race, plus around 40ish cars at the ALL STARS/WOO races. Right there shows around 75 top shelf sprinters in Florida (410 cars). I looked quickly and didn't see any of the same cars running winged and nonwinged but may have missed a few. Then lets add in another 50 plus cars who are going to run the king of 360's race next week. Out of those 50 figure 25 of them also already ran 410 races so now our Florida sprinter total is over 100 cars. However, many of these guys use a different car for the 360 and the 410 so you could say there were more like 115 different sprinters racing in FL this season so far. OOPS!! Almost forgot the TBARA winged asphalt guys...what will they have, 20ish cars??? Now we are up to the 130 car count in Florida "JUST LIKE" in 1979 with one exception....FREAKING DIVISION!!!!! Winged cars, non wing cars, 410s, 360s, Dirt cars, asphalt cars....blah blah blah... THERE'S YOUR PROBLEM!!!! Used to be sprint car racing, same car with or without the wings, same car dirt vs asphalt with a few exceptions. Now there is no such thing a a sprint car race.....you have to have some other word or number in front of sprint car. And sadly, there are just enough deep pocket guys in each of them to keep me and you from being able to have a legitimate shot. Also sad is the fact that the type of sprinter requiring the least amount of motor budget (non wing) is the type that runs for the worst purse and gets the least number of races booked. It would still be feasible for a middle class guys to field a winning non wing car just about anywhere but the winners share of most races wont even cover fuel, tires, rig fuel and pit passes after the driver gets his 30-50%. So whats the fix???? Throw the wings in the trash, go back to M&H racemasters, chuck all the cokpit adjusters??? Can't do that, all the rich people would quit..haha

Darnall, I was just about to point those numbers out. I ran in the 1977 and 78 Rocky Fisher promoted shows and we ALL ran together. I even loaned Robert Smith (FL bad ass asphalt driver) a suit and helmet when his was stolen from his truck.....no enclosed trailers back then. No stupid high priced mules and four wheelers either. Push trucks came to us, and we pitted on the inside of East Bay. That gave all the fans something else to watch......pit activity.
We came to Florida to run more than 5 nights also.....with the mix of dirt and pavement.....with the same car unless you were Sammy or Ferkel, (remember his black #0 pavement car)......we ran almost 3 weeks with very few nights off.
Good fun.

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[SUPERDUKE]

Originally Posted by bigmojo5 "if you are not happy with any of these said things, stay away or distance yourself from them!!!!!!!! Please" keith, it's tough to distance yourself from something you love. Jim morrison

a lot of people have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by bigmojo5 "if you are not happy with any of these said things, stay away or distance yourself from them!!!!!!!! Please" keith, it's tough to distance yourself from something you love. Jim morrison

how many weekly shows a knoxville made money last year?

[SUPERDUKE]

Originally Posted by bigmojo5 "if you are not happy with any of these said things, stay away or distance yourself from them!!!!!!!! Please" keith, it's tough to distance yourself from something you love. Jim morrison

how many weekly shows a knoxville made money last year?