Wow, I'm surprised more of the PA posse isn't there.... where's Freddie at??

[AERO410SCJA]

Originally Posted by ked wow, i'm surprised more of the pa posse isn't there.... Where's freddie at??

[SUPERDUKE]

Its only going to get worse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The cost of racing is out of site! I told you all last winter this would happen! JUST A BITTER OLD MAN!

[RacinFool]

Originally Posted by SUPERDUKE Its only going to get worse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The cost of racing is out of site! I told you all last winter this would happen! JUST A BITTER OLD MAN!

Duke your not that old..But you have a valid point. The big question is how was the crowd?-Tom

[AJH Motorsports]

The crowd was excellent.. The caliber of drivers out there was incredible.. 50 laps and not one car torn up. We could all get used to this kind of racing out here. Thank you USAC.

[RacinFool]

Originally Posted by AJH Motorsports The crowd was excellent.. The caliber of drivers out there was incredible.. 50 laps and not one car torn up. We could all get used to this kind of racing out here. Thank you USAC.

Thanks for the heads up, Wish they would come to central NY. To much winged stuff here.-Tom

Originally Posted by ked Wow, I'm surprised more of the PA posse isn't there.... where's Freddie at??

shhhhhhh don't want to many cars the night be too long for those that want to watch a consi that don't mean crap!!! Randy Smith

[racefan20]

Originally Posted by delaware shhhhhhh don't want to many cars the night be too long for those that want to watch a consi that don't mean crap!!! Randy Smith

Either get off your azz and go to the races or quit yer bitchin its starting to get old.

[Kirk Spridgeon]

Seriously, delaware....your complaints are pretty ridiculous. The racing was excellent, in both divisions. It was all over at like 10:30. And you claim you like USAC racing so much - if it was truly important, you would take vacation. But even if not, they would have gotten you out at a respectable time! Especially for having a fifty-lap race.

It seems like the people out here are on two different ends. Most fans are crazed - they come out in droves, love the racing, buy a bunch of t-shirts. Others complain like this....and the racers don't even show up for $700 to start.....and today is cancelled without a real strong effort to get it in. I'm puzzled!

[nowingsjeff]

Originally Posted by Kirk Spridgeon It seems like the people out here are on two different ends. Most fans are crazed - they come out in droves, love the racing, buy a bunch of t-shirts. Others complain like this....and the racers don't even show up for $700 to start.....and today is cancelled without a real strong effort to get it in. I'm puzzled!

Kirk, The problem is the PA drivers don't know anything about non-wingers other than the crash tapes. They think it's just too dangerous, and the way they drive it might just be. They're all aspiring to be Donny Schatz, not Dave Darland or Jerry Coons Jr. Most of those guys probably don't even know who Dave or Jerry are, let alone guys like Hines, Jones, Clauson, Whitt, Sweet, Hockett and all the other stars of USAC. So that answers the driver deal, and truthfully I'm glad they didn't have a bunch of URC or Posse drivers there last night. It wouldn't have brought anything to the show, except crashes and a drawn out show. The quality last night out weighed the quantity big time.

As far as the track canceling that's easy too. The Grove never really wanted USAC here. They don't want the local fans to know there's something better than what they see at their track each week. The only reason they booked the show from what I've been told is Bob Miller forced their hand after he brought USAC back here 3 years ago. He told Williams Grove management that he'd wanted to lease "The Grove" for a USAC night like he does with Grandview for the Thunder Series. After the fan turnout reported at Big D & Grandview the first year "The Grove" thought they'd better get their share of the pie instead of Miller, so they brought USAC in, however I think reluctantly. I'd almost guarantee announcer Bruce Ellis is happy it rained today. Hell, he probably did a rain dance. I know he's publicly denounce traditional sprintcars as being inferior to his beloved winged garbage more than once in print and over the public address system at The Grove. I think he's probably a closet non wing fan, but for the sake of job security he can't promote non wingers as being better than the weekly winged shows that pay his wages. Self preservation you know.

Anyway, that's my conspiracy theory take on the subject. LOL

Later,

Jeff